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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: demarpaint] #1989644 08/18/10 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint


Lighten up guy, 4 posts and this rant. You'll get booted.

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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: Bill in Utah] #1989671 08/18/10 10:28 AM
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The people that buy Lucas are the same people who buy the un-certified oil that is the cheapest stuff on the oil isle.

I've seen folks in Walmart with 4 quarts of Accel straight 30 weight and a bottle of Lucas with a Fram oil filter.

I've thought about trying to educate them, but I have learned a long time ago that many other people "KNOW" better than I do.
They could use a $8 5 quart jug of Supertech brand 15w40 and a SuperTech filter, save money, and have an oil that will be closer to whatever their car's make was designed for.
Typically I just walk the other way, I've had one to many people give me a bad experience for trying to be helpful.

The stuff obviously moves because Walmart seems to carry tons of the junk.

Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: aquariuscsm] #1990002 08/18/10 02:52 PM
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STP is not what is used to be.
It used to have very high zinc, among other things.
Now it is pretty much a thick motor oil [Actually, that's all it ever was]. And the 4 cyl formula is ven more questionable.

We have some pretty old cases from having STP as a sponsor [put their sticker on!]. They are valued on EBay - maybe because of what is contains.

Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: mechtech2] #1990047 08/18/10 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: robbiejt
Has anyone here had rod knock and tried lucas? And i dont mean so far gone nothing will help it. I for one have had rod knock and it worked so whoever here says it dont work how do you know whats in the product when you didnt make the dam product? Tthis [censored] me off all the [censored] talkers will come on here acting as if they know the formula to it and made it. It worked until i could replace the bearings it makes a cushion for the bearings duh it doesnt say permanent fix dummies and oh yeah oil pressure went up with bad bearings thats proof right there it says increases oil pressure plus stopped the knocking i doubt seriously lucas is going to tell you all here the formula so you can scam them i doubt a single one of you here could tell me whats in it Can You? I have no idea all you condeming it id like you to tell me whats in it. You must of seen it made the way your talking even [censored] motor oil without lucas will foam get out an electric mixer its going to make bubbles idiots do whatever you want i will continue using it and if someone wants something in their car you have no right telling them not to use it you their boss or some [censored]?


Lucas IS garbage,their's nothing in it of any benefit to an engine,NONE!!


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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: steve20] #1991654 08/19/10 11:19 PM
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Plain, simple Garak.


EXACTLY !!


Yep, don't complicate things. The worst part is that most of these additives are horribly expensive. Hmmm, let's buy five quarts of a good SM oil and top it off with this fancy snake oil for $15 more. Let's ignore the jug of Rotella that would give me four oil changes at roughly $10 per change, and give me plenty of ZDDP and sufficient thickness.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: robbiejt] #1991731 08/20/10 05:55 AM
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Here's the funny thing. We do know what's in it. Look in the oil additives section. A guy was nice enough to get a VOA of Lucas oil additive, and then also get a UOA of a run of it in his engine with 5 or 6 quarts of oil, I believe.

If you've used the stuff, heard your dad say it's "good stuff", and never had a problem with it... then of course, you will be biased for it. But, you must drop what you've heard and look at the cold hard facts.

Adding this to your oil lowers your additives ppm. It dilutes your oil while making it thicker. There is no benefit for it on any engine. It does not help with cold starts like it states. Everyone knows a thinner oil flows better on start up.

No additives in it, either? That is what really disgusted me. It's just a thick, low quality base stock, I believe. It is a waste of money.

This is coming from a guy who was as blind as you about "loving lucas". You just gotta look at the facts.

Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: Jaymus] #1991753 08/20/10 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jaymus
Originally Posted By: robbiejt
Has anyone here had rod knock and tried lucas? And i dont mean so far gone nothing will help it. I for one have had rod knock and it worked so whoever here says it dont work how do you know whats in the product when you didnt make the dam product? Tthis [censored] me off all the [censored] talkers will come on here acting as if they know the formula to it and made it. It worked until i could replace the bearings it makes a cushion for the bearings duh it doesnt say permanent fix dummies and oh yeah oil pressure went up with bad bearings thats proof right there it says increases oil pressure plus stopped the knocking i doubt seriously lucas is going to tell you all here the formula so you can scam them i doubt a single one of you here could tell me whats in it Can You? I have no idea all you condeming it id like you to tell me whats in it. You must of seen it made the way your talking even [censored] motor oil without lucas will foam get out an electric mixer its going to make bubbles idiots do whatever you want i will continue using it and if someone wants something in their car you have no right telling them not to use it you their boss or some [censored]?


Here's the funny thing. We do know what's in it. Look in the oil additives section. A guy was nice enough to get a VOA of Lucas oil additive, and then also get a UOA of a run of it in his engine with 5 or 6 quarts of oil, I believe.

If you've used the stuff, heard your dad say it's "good stuff", and never had a problem with it... then of course, you will be biased for it. But, you must drop what you've heard and look at the cold hard facts.

Adding this to your oil lowers your additives ppm. It dilutes your oil while making it thicker. There is no benefit for it on any engine. It does not help with cold starts like it states. Everyone knows a thinner oil flows better on start up.

No additives in it, either? That is what really disgusted me. It's just a thick, low quality base stock, I believe. It is a waste of money.

This is coming from a guy who was as blind as you about "loving lucas". You just gotta look at the facts.


Don't bother, some people are too "smart" for their own good. Unfortunately that is probably the least harmful thing they will be doing to their vehicle.


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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: aquariuscsm] #1991770 08/20/10 07:01 AM
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Use Tuf Oil instead. It's loaded with Moly.


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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: Jaymus] #1991796 08/20/10 07:32 AM
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Here's the funny thing. We do know what's in it. Look in the oil additives section. A guy was nice enough to get a VOA of Lucas oil additive, and then also get a UOA of a run of it in his engine with 5 or 6 quarts of oil, I believe.

If you've used the stuff, heard your dad say it's "good stuff", and never had a problem with it... then of course, you will be biased for it. But, you must drop what you've heard and look at the cold hard facts.

Adding this to your oil lowers your additives ppm. It dilutes your oil while making it thicker. There is no benefit for it on any engine. It does not help with cold starts like it states. Everyone knows a thinner oil flows better on start up.

No additives in it, either? That is what really disgusted me. It's just a thick, low quality base stock, I believe. It is a waste of money.

This is coming from a guy who was as blind as you about "loving lucas". You just gotta look at the facts.[/quote]

Well said.


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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: salesrep] #1992194 08/20/10 02:34 PM
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It appears that PYB is not loaded with Moly. That is the difference between Formula Shell and PYB for me. Formula Shell is loaded with Moly and it might have the most of the Dino's that I've seen.

To make up for the low moly count in PYB I will just continue to add my 5 ounces of Tuf Oil to any oil that seems to be carrying a low Moly count.

PYB is quite an exceptional oil, from what I read on the boards and after looking at the UOA's posted by the members, and since I like Moly....I will use Tuf Oil to hopefully make up the difference.

Cheers


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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: mongo161] #1992503 08/20/10 06:51 PM
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It appears that PYB is not loaded with Moly. That is the difference between Formula Shell and PYB for me. Formula Shell is loaded with Moly and it might have the most of the Dino's that I've seen.

To make up for the low moly count in PYB I will just continue to add my 5 ounces of Tuf Oil to any oil that seems to be carrying a low Moly count.


Then, that begs a simple question. Instead of playing with additives, why not just switch to Formula Shell? At least up here, they are basically priced the same. They are both quality SOPUS products. If a formulation weren't, hypothetically, to my liking, I'd simply find one that is more to my liking, rather than play amateur chemist.

If an oil change cost $10 with Formula Shell and $10 with PYB + a nickel for the additive, that's still five cents too much. If I feel an oil is inadequate (and that's probably just a feeling, rather than anything scientific), I'd simply switch oils. SOPUS (and everyone else for that matter) have a wide variety of products for a reason.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: robbiejt] #2367546 09/05/11 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted By: robbiejt
Nobody said anything about huffing it [censored] that's an ignorant retarded comment.


Nobody said anything against Lucas in this thread for over a year, and Audi Junkie is MIA. I don't think the opinions of Lucas have changed among the users here over the past year, either.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: LTrippett] #2367561 09/05/11 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: robbiejt
This is the most ignorant website ive ever seen in my life bunch of idiots on here. Whoever pays for this website is wasting their money on a bunch of junk.Provide proof of an engine failure from lucas since you say its garbage back up your story with some evidence of a engine failure if its so bad like you claim. The lucas i use has zddp in it.You Know i wonder something if half of you in here talking [censored] dont use a lucas oil product an engine oil not an additive but lucas motor oil.


You know, the thread was about Lucas Oil Stabilizer, not Lucas the brand in of itself.

Which Lucas product do you use that contains zinc? There, was that so hard guy? What 'good' Lucas product are you having some success with?

..and I totally get the 'argument' about it having 'some' place, if you were stranded and needed a way to thicken up the oil in order to keep an old beater running, but other that that the original topic was about the 'additive-less' Lucas Oil Stabilizer.

Now...I would conversely like to see a VOA on their 'Full Synthetic' Oil Stabilizer. It doesn't seem as thick, etc. Is THAT what you are using?


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Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: robbiejt] #2367597 09/05/11 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: robbiejt
This is the most ignorant website ive ever seen in my life bunch of idiots on here. Whoever pays for this website is wasting their money on a bunch of junk.Provide proof of an engine failure from lucas since you say its garbage back up your story with some evidence of a engine failure if its so bad like you claim. The lucas i use has zddp in it.You Know i wonder something if half of you in here talking [censored] dont use a lucas oil product an engine oil not an additive but lucas motor oil.


We thank you for adding to the ignorance and idiots on this site. You've done an excellent job of it and we will miss you.

Re: They Call it "Lucas" Oil Stabilizer [Re: LTrippett] #2367612 09/05/11 06:13 AM
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While I do not use Lucas products I do amuse myself with their test gizmo (with the gears and cranks) while waiting for the parts guy to get something.


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