Who makes the best car batteries

[bigmike]

So, what is the conclusion? Who makes the best out of JC, Exide, and East Penn?

Is there a conclusion to be had?

I ask this as I am interested in everyone's opinion as well. I'm not so much interested in which "sub-branded" battery is the best.

My AC Delco is OEM and, unfortunately, I cannot get a replacement that is exact as manufacturers have changed (used to be Delphi). I too was an avid Optima supporter until JC took over.

 

[ACK2001]

Originally Posted By: Wilhelm_D
Originally Posted By: ACK2001
Enersys does not "avoid" the automotive battery market, in fact they OWN it at the highest end, as Consumers Reports has named their AGM battery the best ever tested for 3-4 years in a row!!!! Their batteries are marketed under both the Odyssey and Diehard Platinum brands {both are identical,and made by Enersys right here in the USA}


There are no Enersys batteries listed in the Consumer Reports ratings.

You may be thinking of EverStart, which is the Walmart brand.

And that proves my point, EverStarts are made by three different manufacturers.






NO,My above quote is correct as written

 

[Colt45ws]

I wanted a DieHard Platinium but the $300 for a battery was a bit steep.

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: bigmike
So, what is the conclusion? Who makes the best out of JC, Exide, and East Penn?

Is there a conclusion to be had?


Not in my opinion.

And the fact that Walmart's batteries score high, although made by three different outfits, seems to support that conclusion.

There are not high tech products.

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: ACK2001
NO,My above quote is correct as written


I just logged into my Consumer Reports account and read the last battery ratings on-line.

Zero "Enersys".

Perhaps my definition of "correct" differs from yours.

 

[Lakersguy]

Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
I wanted a DieHard Platinium but the $300 for a battery was a bit steep.

You paid to much! Mine was $180.00. Excellent but expensive battery.

 

[HTSS_TR]

I think Odyssey and Diehard Platinum are one of best if not the best. But the best buy is Walmart Everstart Maxx, at around $79 it has 3 years free replacement and 5 additional years pro-rate for a total of 8 years warranty. Also, Walmart is everywhere so that if you're on a trip you can get a replacement at any one of the Walmart store.

 

[ACK2001]

Originally Posted By: Wilhelm_D
Originally Posted By: ACK2001
NO,My above quote is correct as written


I just logged into my Consumer Reports account and read the last battery ratings on-line.

Zero "Enersys".

Perhaps my definition of "correct" differs from yours.









How can I make this any clearer.....Enersys sells their batteries under the Odyssey and Diehard Platinum brand labels, and consumers reports rated the diehard platinum the best ever tested battery for the last 3 years. Simple concept.

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: ACK2001
How can I make this any clearer.....


I would begin by pointing to the Enersys batteries in Consumer Reports.

Originally Posted By: ACK2001
Enersys sells their batteries under the Odyssey and Diehard Platinum brand labels ....


No, they do not.

 

[ACK2001]

I hate doing your homework for you....but here you go....

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[ACK2001]

And as far as Enersys producing the Odyssey branded automotive batteries.......here you go again......


www.odysseyfactory.com

Scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see they are a product of ENERSYS......... hopefully this makes it CRYSTAL CLEAR.

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: ACK2001
I hate doing your homework for you....but here you go....


You’re not doing MY homework for me. YOU'RE the one who said that Enersys dominates the Consumers Reports ratings and has for some years.

Originally Posted By: ACK2001
Beginning in March, 2007, Sears Auto Centers will be the exclusive distribution channel for DieHard Platinum batteries.


Oddly enough, the DieHard Platinum batteries don’t "dominate" the Consumers Reports ratings. Diehard is a Sears brand name, so of course Sears distributes Diehard batteries.

In fact, as this illustrates, Enersys has not been a player in automobile batteries and only recently undertook to make a single model of the Sears batteries, the bulk of which have been made by either Johnson Controls or Exide, depending on the time frame we’re discussing. This model uses a fiberglass mat design, which is classic of industrial batteries.

As the Public Relations Release notes, Enersys is basically an industrial battery manufacturer.

However, the technology is such that if you can make industrial batteries, you can make automotive and truck batteries. Enersys is NOT a significant player in automotive batteries:

http://www.enersys.com/

http://www.enersys.com/backgrd.asp

Thanks for playing.

Better luck next time.

 

[ACK2001]

Some are obviously soar losers..........and I will not do your homework to show you how the platinum was the ONLY battery to score excellent in all 3 areas of the consumers reports tests for the last 3 years.....do it yourself......and Enersys has produced the Odyssey battery for automobiles for quite a long time.....so you are incorrect on that front also..........over and out, hopefully you learned a few things today!!!! Good luck to you in the future.

 

[daves87rs]

Just wow, guys...


Anyways, best bang for buck battery would be the Penn Deka ones. Most of the "good" shops use those, or Exide batteries.

Super Start, Auto Value, Deka,or Meijer's brand are EPD batteries.


Or Napa, Federated, or Caquest battery by Exide are pretty good too. (I have a NAPA 65 in the wife's car).


Like tires, it's up the the companies themselves to set standards for their batteries. Judging by the sheer number of everstart batteries at the local shops I know, I better be pretty "in need" to buy one there.

The only batteries I'd buy off the shelf at a part store would be either Super Start (EPD) or Duralast (JC).

 

[Colt45ws]

Originally Posted By: Lakersguy
Originally Posted By: Colt45ws
I wanted a DieHard Platinium but the $300 for a battery was a bit steep.

You paid to much! Mine was $180.00. Excellent but expensive battery.

Okay, I was off a bit. But it might as well have been when I needed the battery.

 

[daves87rs]

I'm not paying over a 100 bucks for mine....

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: daves87rs
Anyways, best bang for buck battery would be the Penn Deka ones. Most of the "good" shops use those, or Exide batteries.

Super Start, Auto Value, Deka,or Meijer's brand are EPD batteries.

Or Napa, Federated, or Caquest battery by Exide are pretty good too. (I have a NAPA 65 in the wife's car).

Like tires, it's up the the companies themselves to set standards for their batteries. Judging by the sheer number of everstart batteries at the local shops I know, I better be pretty "in need" to buy one there.

The only batteries I'd buy off the shelf at a part store would be either Super Start (EPD) or Duralast (JC).


I currently have a Carquest/Deka in one car and a Bosch/Exide in the other.

Bosch is an OEM in Europe, but here they are merely a brand sold at Pep Boys.

 

[CharBaby]

Battery issues is something that I have never had. I've tried em all and I don't see any difference. I know, I know! I'd have to go into some real story telling with my experiences and car batterys. I've seen the cheapest last the longest and the best(by rating) die the soonest. In my early married years, my wife and I drove lot's of little 4 bangers with small batterys. When the originals would die(4-5 years), I would replace with the cheapest battery I could find and they usually lasted the life of the vehicle from there on(6 + years). We would often sell the car(cheap) with the second battery still in it. Often these cars had at or near 200,000 miles on em.

Today, I want a good known strong longer lasting battery for my vehicles because the vehicles have more $#!+ in em. One thing I do notice about todays batterys. NO WARNING! At least, nothing that I can tell. They just die one day! Didn't notice anything the day before it died. The next day...Click, Click, Click!

Today, I buy the size I need for my rides and check to see who has the biggest one for the best price wheather it AZ, AAP, PB's or W*M. Lately it's been W*M. I buy the battery and I don't concern myself for 5-6 years and, I still don't worry. When it dies, it dies. Sometimes if too long of a time goes on I'll replace the battey before it bites me...Sometimes I get bit!

 

[Wilhelm_D]

Originally Posted By: Char Baby
One thing I do notice about todays batterys. NO WARNING! At least, nothing that I can tell. They just die one day! Didn't notice anything the day before it died. The next day...Click, Click, Click!


The principal reason for that is the increased capacity of batteries.

In a given size the only way to increase capacity is to jam greater plate surface in.

This usually results in plates extending further down from the top as capacity (and price) goes up.

Since the plates shed material, a "mud" builds up in the bottom of the battery. When it gets deep enough to touch the bottom of a plate, there is a short and the battery drains to zip.

So, the very premium conventional battery with high capacity often does not last as long as the lower priced sibling in the same brand, and when it fails, it fails all at once.

 

[Boss302fan]

If you want the best, go with Odyssey... This is hands down the best on the mkt. Also the most expensive. As they say, you get what you pay for...