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Is Fiat good for Chrysler? #1775240 02/09/10 12:14 PM
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I own a Jeep and it has been a decent SUV.sad to say my next car/truck will be a import.Ford is on top with their quality and I think GM will improve.My concern is if Mercedes Benz could not make Chrysler a rel player how can Fiat do it?What would happen to the Jeep brand if Chrysler needs to be broking up.It would be nice to see Ford/GM take the reins.Joe

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Ford used to build really good Jeeps, a friend of mine has one. I'd like to see them take over Jeep as well.

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Only time will tell about FIAT. I hope it does.

Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: LS2JSTS] #1775261 02/09/10 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
Ford used to build really good Jeeps, a friend of mine has one. I'd like to see them take over Jeep as well.


WW2 Wiley's if im not mistaken. Ford and a few other manufacturer's ramped up production for the military at that time.


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Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: Johnny] #1775262 02/09/10 12:27 PM
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I think the issue is did Daimler want Chrysler to be a real player? From what I understand, Daimler's intent was to suck what they could out of Chrysler and toss the carcass aside. If Fiat wants Chrysler to succeed, I see it happening.

The advantage to Fiat is a foot back in the door here in the US. Based on their last time here, I think the Fiat name is still tainted. But if Fiat starts putting out quality product under the Chrysler name, eventually we may see Fiat back as Fiat again. And if not, well, they'll be selling Chrysler-Fiats (Chryats? Fislers?) and making money that way.


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Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: Johnny] #1775265 02/09/10 12:29 PM
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Like fiats, dont know about fiat or if they understand the american market or the truck market. All pivots on if they hire a legendary CEO to run the US domestic (like Lee I.) I wonder what platforms theyll keep. Surely the fat RWD v8s will be banished. Thats oK, they werent very good ( refined) cars anyhow. Not in any way comaparable to the refined Grand Marquis or Buick LeSabre.


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Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: Anies] #1775267 02/09/10 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: Anies
Originally Posted By: LS2JSTS
Ford used to build really good Jeeps, a friend of mine has one. I'd like to see them take over Jeep as well.


WW2 Wiley's if im not mistaken. Ford and a few other manufacturer's ramped up production for the military at that time.


Exactly right. It's neat to see the Ford script on a Jeep though.


OT, I agree with Opus, Chrysler was destined to fail under MB, thats the way the Germans wanted it.

Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #1775270 02/09/10 12:33 PM
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If I compare the quality and reliablity of the Chrysler products I have owned...against F.I.A.T. then the answer is:

NO WAY.

Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: PT1] #1775335 02/09/10 01:13 PM
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It'll be difficult for Fiat to fix Chrysler if Fiat itself needs some serious fixing - their products aren't exactly at the top of the reliability rankings on their home turf.


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Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: Quattro Pete] #1775343 02/09/10 01:17 PM
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I think Fiat has alot to offer chrysler, and vice a versa. Fiat has great small 4 cylinder engines. Chrysler has a fantastic new V6 coming out. I think they can both learn from each other.

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The thing to remember about Daimler is that one market approach will not work for another.

There is a blog written by a few people from within Chrysler at the time of the buyout and how Daimler refused to listen to engineer's, marketing experts etc. Daimler played the game by rushing out vehicles, cutting corners which affected the customer base.

Daimler used their technologies in a few of the Chrysler vehicles(Crossfire) and others so I doubt they didn't want them to be a player, but didn't know how to turn a failing giant around efficiently. They didn't know how to budget properly or handle the employees. They thought they were better, acted like it by separating themselves from their Chrysler counterparts and no real communication took place other than terminating employees who were vocal about a bad decision rather than listen to them.


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Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: Johnny] #1775350 02/09/10 01:23 PM
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a friend of mine had a fiat of some sorts back in the early 60's hope im remembering that rite,,anyway it was a good car, we ran it to death and then some...........


I'd still like to have my 67 Beetle back....life was easy then..imho 2 quarts of oil roughly ,lol
Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: PT1] #1775351 02/09/10 01:23 PM
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FIAT line up
I think there must be a couple cars in here that would do well in N.A.
Revive the Neon name with a Fit/Yaris competitor with 20 more hp and some attitude.
Borrow a 4 or 5 cyl diesel engine for small/mid size work pickup and work van.

I think Chrysler was the most "italian" car company of the big 3 before Daimler wrecked them, the cab forward cars were stylish and had decent driving dynamics compared to what Ford and GM offered at the time. And I think people still buy chrysler cars because they are more interesting than most other cars. Having mid size rwd cars for example.


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Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: Nick R] #1775352 02/09/10 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
It'll be difficult for Fiat to fix Chrysler if Fiat itself needs some serious fixing - their products aren't exactly at the top of the reliability rankings on their home turf.


Oh really, have you driven a Fiat lately? How about Lancia or Alfa Romeo?

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I think Fiat has alot to offer chrysler, and vice a versa. Fiat has great small 4 cylinder engines. Chrysler has a fantastic new V6 coming out. I think they can both learn from each other.


Agree 100% Let's stay positive.

Re: Is Fiat good for Chrysler? [Re: Nick R] #1775362 02/09/10 01:34 PM
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I think Marchionne and his boys are bent on making Chrysler like we have never seen them, but it takes time and money and it seems they don't have much of either. Ditto rudolphna

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