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State Farm warned NHTSA in 2007 #1775042 02/09/10 10:11 AM
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WASHINGTON The nation's largest auto insurer said Tuesday it alerted federal safety regulators in late 2007 about a rise in reports of unexpected acceleration in Toyota vehicles, the latest warning sign to emerge about the massive recall.

State Farm insurance said it noticed an uptick in reports of unwanted acceleration in Toyotas from its large customer database and warned the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration in late 2007. NHTSA officials said the report was reviewed and the agency issued a recall later that month.

NHTSA received complaints about acceleration problems in Toyota vehicles as early as 2003, and congressional investigators are looking into whether the government missed warning signs of the problems. A House committee is scheduled to hold a hearing on Wednesday into the Japanese automaker's recall of about 8.5 million vehicles globally over floor mats which can trap gas pedals, sticking gas pedals and brake problems.


So now that the gov owns 2 competitors it is very convienient to attack the competition. Hmmmmm.

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Why is it a bad thing for details to emerge in a story like this?


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NHTSA is an acronym for National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The agency is part of the U.S. Department of Transportation.

NHTSA was founded in 1970, after passage of the Highway Safety Act of 1970. Its roots actually go back a little further, though, to the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1966 and the Highway Safety Act of 1966, and later, to the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act of 1971.

So NHTSA reports to Ray LaHood (career politician from Chicago) who is appointed by the President who fired the CEO of GM and installed his own guy in there.

DO we have a conflict of interest here?


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The Emperor Toyota has no clothes.

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Do we have a conflict of interest???? HUH???

Did YOU not just post that State Farm, a non-government entity found issues? Seems to me that a company was looking out for itself from that end.

Then the government has to go through the paperwork game, meanwhile assessing the true breadth of the issue, so as to not create a huge scare if it is not really one.

Sure, the government "sort of" owns some of these companies. And they want to see them not be a flop, I buy that. However, it does not dismiss the fact that there is a bona-fide issue. Heck, the DexCool argument for GM isnt as cut and dry as this one...

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Finally doing their [censored] job, to investigate??

Even Toyota's emporer err CEo is now admitting they covered things up. One of their former trial lawyers is about to expose them to.

As they say , where there is smoke, there is fire.

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NHTSA is an acronym for National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The agency is part of the U.S. Department of Transportation.

NHTSA was founded in 1970, after passage of the Highway Safety Act of 1970. Its roots actually go back a little further, though, to the National Traffic and Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1966 and the Highway Safety Act of 1966, and later, to the Motor Vehicle Information and Cost Savings Act of 1971.

So NHTSA reports to Ray LaHood (career politician from Chicago) who is appointed by the President who fired the CEO of GM and installed his own guy in there.

DO we have a conflict of interest here?



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Re: State Farm warned NHTSA in 2007 [Re: JHZR2] #1775122 02/09/10 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Do we have a conflict of interest???? HUH???

Did YOU not just post that State Farm, a non-government entity found issues? Seems to me that a company was looking out for itself from that end.



I think in his world, its more fun to imagine GM as the boogeyman behind everything from Toyota's troubles to the weather.

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I think in his world, its more fun to imagine GM as the boogeyman behind everything from Toyota's troubles to the weather.

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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Do we have a conflict of interest???? HUH???

Did YOU not just post that State Farm, a non-government entity found issues? Seems to me that a company was looking out for itself from that end.

Then the government has to go through the paperwork game, meanwhile assessing the true breadth of the issue, so as to not create a huge scare if it is not really one.

Sure, the government "sort of" owns some of these companies. And they want to see them not be a flop, I buy that. However, it does not dismiss the fact that there is a bona-fide issue. Heck, the DexCool argument for GM isnt as cut and dry as this one...



Do you always just make up excuses or are you really that afraid of the truth. What paperwork game? Sure the government "sort of" owns these companies....better do the math there guy....the government owns ALL of the controlling interest in GM and will for decades. They need to promote their products and the best way is to turn their competitors products into death traps...even Jon Stewart figured that out.

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Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Do we have a conflict of interest???? HUH???

Did YOU not just post that State Farm, a non-government entity found issues? Seems to me that a company was looking out for itself from that end.



I think in his world, its more fun to imagine GM as the boogeyman behind everything from Toyota's troubles to the weather.


GM = The US government & UAW....if you can't see the conflict of interest here...you are blind or just drinking the "GM" koolaid.

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Originally Posted By: PT1
GM = The US government & UAW....if you can't see the conflict of interest here...you are blind or just drinking the "GM" koolaid.


Whatever you say there, my friend! Drink up!

LOL thats a good one....

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NOTICE: GENERAL MOTORS IS NO LONGER A PUBLICALLY OWNED US CORPORATION.

Just thought I would let you guys know as most of you seem to forget that all they kept was the name....the bondholders, debtors and shareholders are all gone. The joystick is now in D.C. and anyone who knows anything about the auto industry is no longer in charge of anything.

Can we all do the Volt dance.....now??? crackmeup

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Originally Posted By: PT1
Do you always just make up excuses or are you really that afraid of the truth.

Do you always see conspiracies in everything, or are you really...

...I can't think of a second thing. But seriously, not everything is a conspiracy.


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GM = The US government & UAW....if you can't see the conflict of interest here...you are blind or just drinking the "GM" koolaid.


Whatever you say there, my friend! Drink up!

LOL thats a good one....


Oh you should know...being from Chicago....thats how its done.

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Originally Posted By: css9450
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Do we have a conflict of interest???? HUH???

Did YOU not just post that State Farm, a non-government entity found issues? Seems to me that a company was looking out for itself from that end.



I think in his world, its more fun to imagine GM as the boogeyman behind everything from Toyota's troubles to the weather.




GM = The US government & UAW....if you can't see the conflict of interest here...you are blind or just drinking the "GM" koolaid.


Well, like I said in my previous post that someone felt it necessary to remove (wow, someone sure is sensitive about Toyota) it's LIES, ALL LIES! It's not Toyotas fault. It's just GM propaganda! This is just crazy! There is no way Toyota made a bunch of junk! Impossible!! LIES!! LIES!!! LIES!!!

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