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Why do people hate lucas products? #1721889
12/28/09 12:31 AM
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I've noticed that a lot of people are anti-lucas, why?

I've used the oil stabilizer in my truck religiously and it keeps lifter noise to a minimum. And the fuel additive seems to improve milage.''

So why?

Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: Sunabozu] #1721893
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Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: Seb] #1721900
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does the lucas full syn do this? because that's what i use.

Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: Sunabozu] #1721902
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Lucas Oil stabilizer is crud. I dunno about their oils. I know the Power Steering stuff did what I wanted it to do, it helped eliminate play in my steering on center.

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The test Bob did is not worth anything


If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.
Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: Nick R] #1721910
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I've never felt the need to "stabilize" my oil. I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish by using it. Considering that pretty much any engine can go 300k miles on the cheapest conventional oil, I don't see the use/purpose of most oil additives in general.


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Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: postjeeprcr] #1721911
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i was thinking that, but i didn't want to step on toes.



edit: i meant to quote "the test isn't worth anything"

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Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: exranger06] #1721912
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Originally Posted By: exranger06
I've never felt the need to "stabilize" my oil. I don't know what you're hoping to accomplish by using it. Considering that pretty much any engine can go 300k miles on the cheapest conventional oil, I don't see the use/purpose of most oil additives in general.


my engine is over 300k, so really anything i can do to keep'er goin, i'm gonna try, you know?

Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: postjeeprcr] #1721925
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Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr

The test Bob did is not worth anything


Why do you say that?


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Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: dsmith41] #1721939
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Originally Posted By: dsmith41
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr

The test Bob did is not worth anything


Why do you say that?


well, *my* initial thought would be that an engine's oil pump would be completely submerged and wouldn't be able to introduce the air bubbles like this high speed gear rig.

i'd really like to see what his rig does with motor oil if he filled the box to the 50% mark and fired it up.

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Originally Posted By: Sunabozu
Originally Posted By: dsmith41
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr

The test Bob did is not worth anything


Why do you say that?


well, *my* initial thought would be that an engine's oil pump would be completely submerged and wouldn't be able to introduce the air bubbles like this high speed gear rig.

i'd really like to see what his rig does with motor oil if he filled the box to the 50% mark and fired it up.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation

Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: Nick R] #1721952
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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Originally Posted By: Sunabozu
Originally Posted By: dsmith41
Originally Posted By: postjeeprcr

The test Bob did is not worth anything


Why do you say that?


well, *my* initial thought would be that an engine's oil pump would be completely submerged and wouldn't be able to introduce the air bubbles like this high speed gear rig.

i'd really like to see what his rig does with motor oil if he filled the box to the 50% mark and fired it up.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavitation


i would almost bet lefty that motor oil can not cavitate inside the oil pump.

can motor oil even do that, uh, ever?

edit: even if it could, why would making the oil thicker reduce the vapor pressure?

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Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: Sunabozu] #1721954
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Don't know, but you asked how you could introduce air bubbles when something is completely submerged. But I would bet that motor oil CAN cavitate. Whether or not it can do it inside an oil pump, I have no clue.

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Originally Posted By: rudolphna
Don't know, but you asked how you could introduce air bubbles when something is completely submerged. But I would bet that motor oil CAN cavitate. Whether or not it can do it inside an oil pump, I have no clue.


yeah but even then, it wouldn't be air bubbles, it would be oil vapor, air isn't dissolved in motor oil.

Re: Why do people hate lucas products? [Re: Sunabozu] #1721964
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But in a gear oil, cavitation would be a concern.


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