Its a mmo (almost) Pre-Christmas miracle

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If i was not a believer ,I am now. I have never used mmo in a crank case until a couple weeks ago and just to balance out a pint of 10w40 hm i put in a couple cars that called for 5w30.They do run better.
Today was a whole new Christmas miracle. I recently purchased a 2002 suzuki aerio. It was not road worthy so i am stashing it at a friends paint shop awaiting paint and a few mechanical repairs. I fixed a bad wheel bearing today and took it for a spin. The car was knocking like crazy from under the valve cover.It sounded like it needed a valve job. I checked the oil and it was 3/4 quart low.
Just by chance there was 3/4 of a quart of mmo on a shelf at the shop. I asked the owner if i could use it. He said no problem. I poured it in and fired the motor up. Within 2 minutes it was already quieting down .By the time I had it on the road , the noise was almost gone and with 5 minutes drive time it was completely gone. That 5 weight oil must have lubed the upper half of the valve train from a car that sat the last 2 months. I am impressed to say the least. As soon as I get It out of the paint shop , drive it 1000 miles and get the pp in her ,we'll be good to go.
OMMMMMMMM
ommmmmmm
Just getting my karma fix for today.
I Believe
I Believe
Thats my Pre-Christmas miracle .
 
Originally Posted By: chad8
If i was not a believer ,I am now. I have never used mmo in a crank case until a couple weeks ago and just to balance out a pint of 10w40 hm i put in a couple cars that called for 5w30.They do run better.
Today was a whole new Christmas miracle. I recently purchased a 2002 suzuki aerio. It was not road worthy so i am stashing it at a friends paint shop awaiting paint and a few mechanical repairs. I fixed a bad wheel bearing today and took it for a spin. The car was knocking like crazy from under the valve cover.It sounded like it needed a valve job. I checked the oil and it was 3/4 quart low.
Just by chance there was 3/4 of a quart of mmo on a shelf at the shop. I asked the owner if i could use it. He said no problem. I poured it in and fired the motor up. Within 2 minutes it was already quieting down .By the time I had it on the road , the noise was almost gone and with 5 minutes drive time it was completely gone. That 5 weight oil must have lubed the upper half of the valve train from a car that sat the last 2 months. I am impressed to say the least. As soon as I get It out of the paint shop , drive it 1000 miles and get the pp in her ,we'll be good to go.
OMMMMMMMM
ommmmmmm
Just getting my karma fix for today.
I Believe
I Believe
Thats my Pre-Christmas miracle .


I've recommended it to friends and family for over 35 years now. Never heard anyone complain, in fact most of the feedback was similar to yours. Good luck with ride, keep us updated!
 
I had a similar experience over the weekend. A friend called me to look at his wife's aging Escort GT. It had a nasty lifter tap that had appeared gradually over the course of a few weeks and his wife had just gotten around to telling him about it. The valve cover was conveniently free of obstruction so I sent him off to buy a new gasket using my car and popped off the valve cover. OMG...it was caked with what I'd estimate to be a fairly uniform coating of sludge all over everything approximately 1/8" thick.

I cleaned things the best I could with a putty knife and a couple of cans of carb cleaner. Then I replaced the cover and dumped the oil and filter. I replaced the oil with 1qt of MMO and topped it off with PYB 5W-30. Fired up the engine and let it idle for about 30 minutes and the lifter noise eventually stopped. We took it on the highway for a 50 mile drive to visit another buddy and 50 miles back. When we returned, I dumped the oil (which looked like Bosco now) and filter again. We put in 32oz of MMO and topped off with PYB 5W-30. He's going to drive it like that for 750-1000 miles and then we'll dump it again and replace it with PP 5W-30.

Heh, his wife has owned the car since it was new and "didn't know" how often the oil got changed. LOL

Best,
 
Seriously, that's some good karma coming your way! I need more friends like you
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Originally Posted By: webfors
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God, I hope so. Things are getting a bit lean.
 
What makes you think it wasn't just noisy from sitting for 2 months, and oil finally getting the lifters wasn't the solution? I'm not knocking MMO, but I'm not sure anything could take something from clogged, not working to fixed that quickly.
 
But who knows what would have happened with ANY oil added, since it was low? Espesially a thinner one?
And what about simply heating up and running after a long rest?

This doesn't really show anything conclusive.
 
Originally Posted By: gathermewool
What makes you think it wasn't just noisy from sitting for 2 months, and oil finally getting the lifters wasn't the solution? I'm not knocking MMO, but I'm not sure anything could take something from clogged, not working to fixed that quickly.


Even if it was sitting for a generation, oil would "get to" the lifters in a few seconds in a properly functioning engine that wasn't clogged with poo. Heat + solvent = unstuck
 
The Jetta had some noise going on for as long as i can remember. Its hand synthetic and conventional its whole life and nothing could quiet her down. This last oil change i went with another round of GTX HM and decided to give a half of a qrt of MMO a try....withing a few hundred miles its pretty much went away.
 
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
But who knows what would have happened with ANY oil added, since it was low? Espesially a thinner one?
And what about simply heating up and running after a long rest?

This doesn't really show anything conclusive.

To answer your doubts. I first ran the car a few times down the block and warmed it up .I let it idle a while too. The car was only down less than a quart of oil(2/3-3/4). You should have heard it. it was BAD. I have been working on cars as a hobby 35 years. I know my stuff. I have never seen a motor quiet down like this one did especially immediately after adding mmo. So you can attribute it to whatever you want ,but I know what lubed that motor.
Yes , probably any straight 5w oil with solvent probably could have done it ,but I used mmo and could not be more satisfied. As far as just the oil level being low , i test drove the car a couple weeks ago before I bought it , but could only drive it a block. The wheel bearing was going to fall out and snap the axle so I limped it back to the house. I do not remember the engine making that much noise and the oil level was the same as today. I could be wrong about the valve noise because I was so concerned about the wheel falling off, but i am sure I would have noticed it.
I do Know that the mmo did exactly what it was designed to do. Lubricate the upper end of the motor and free up any sticking valves or lifters. Who is with me on this one! .
 
I'm with ya! I've always loved MMO. Used it in several "project" cars through the years. Its one of the first things I do to it when I acquire a "project". I use it in daily drivers as well and truly believe in it. Am I a Kool-Aid drinker because of it? I don't know. But I like Orange flavor.
 
Originally Posted By: chad8
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
But who knows what would have happened with ANY oil added, since it was low? Espesially a thinner one?
And what about simply heating up and running after a long rest?

This doesn't really show anything conclusive.

To answer your doubts. I first ran the car a few times down the block and warmed it up .I let it idle a while too. The car was only down less than a quart of oil(2/3-3/4). You should have heard it. it was BAD. I have been working on cars as a hobby 35 years. I know my stuff. I have never seen a motor quiet down like this one did especially immediately after adding mmo. So you can attribute it to whatever you want ,but I know what lubed that motor.
Yes , probably any straight 5w oil with solvent probably could have done it ,but I used mmo and could not be more satisfied. As far as just the oil level being low , i test drove the car a couple weeks ago before I bought it , but could only drive it a block. The wheel bearing was going to fall out and snap the axle so I limped it back to the house. I do not remember the engine making that much noise and the oil level was the same as today. I could be wrong about the valve noise because I was so concerned about the wheel falling off, but i am sure I would have noticed it.
I do Know that the mmo did exactly what it was designed to do. Lubricate the upper end of the motor and free up any sticking valves or lifters. Who is with me on this one! .


I am with you on this one.
 
Originally Posted By: chad8
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
But who knows what would have happened with ANY oil added, since it was low? Espesially a thinner one?
And what about simply heating up and running after a long rest?

This doesn't really show anything conclusive.

To answer your doubts. I first ran the car a few times down the block and warmed it up .I let it idle a while too. The car was only down less than a quart of oil(2/3-3/4). You should have heard it. it was BAD. I have been working on cars as a hobby 35 years. I know my stuff. I have never seen a motor quiet down like this one did especially immediately after adding mmo. So you can attribute it to whatever you want ,but I know what lubed that motor.
Yes , probably any straight 5w oil with solvent probably could have done it ,but I used mmo and could not be more satisfied. As far as just the oil level being low , i test drove the car a couple weeks ago before I bought it , but could only drive it a block. The wheel bearing was going to fall out and snap the axle so I limped it back to the house. I do not remember the engine making that much noise and the oil level was the same as today. I could be wrong about the valve noise because I was so concerned about the wheel falling off, but i am sure I would have noticed it.
I do Know that the mmo did exactly what it was designed to do. Lubricate the upper end of the motor and free up any sticking valves or lifters. Who is with me on this one! .


We've been working on cars about the same amount of time. I've had similar results over the years helping friends with problem engines. I'm with you on this one
 
I'm not going to say that MMO has never solved a problem in an engine, BUT I still think it is a modern day snake oil.

I would bet that if you simply used a high detergent HDEO like Shell Rotella T for a couple of thousand miles it would do the same thing.

Detergency is the key in modern day engines! Not snake oil.

The bottom line is that for modern vehicles (less than 20-25 years old or less) most all manufacturers specifically tell you NOT to use additives of any kind as they may actually cause damage.
 
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We're all entitled to our opinions, my guess is you've never "needed" MMO. 35 years of car ownership, maint, repair, and helping friends who neglected their cars has shown me what MMO can do. Seems its popularity has grown in leaps and bounds on this board lately, so I'd say it's a little more than a snake oil.

Rotella T is a good oil, it will not clean an engine like MMO will. It might do some mild cleaning, but it is not going to clean up a heavy duty mess. Oils primary function is to lubricate and protect an engine, not clean it. A neglected engine, that is clogged up with garbage needs more than oil to clean it up. I use it to aid in cold weather starting, in the gas as a UCL, and for keeping a clean engine clean. JMO YMMV
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