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Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 #1631140
10/14/09 07:33 AM
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MA
mez Offline OP
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What off the shelf synthetic Transmission fluid would you recommend in lieu of using Honda ATF-Z1? I was thinking of using Mobil 1?


2006 Honda Ridgeline RTL
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: mez] #1631145
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If you are dead set against using the Z-1, probably Amsoil. It is the only alternative that seems to please the users who switch.


2018 Ford F-150 XL Reg Cab - 3.3L NA V-6
Motorcraft 5w-20 Syn Blend and Motorcraft FL-500s

1991 BMW R100GS 20w-50 Maxlife & Mahle OX36D filter
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Hermann] #1631165
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Milwaukee, WI
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There are several. M1, Amsoil, Castol Import. There don't seem to be bad experiences, or at least not any more than there would be with Z1.


2004 Highlander 2.4
2011 Toyota Sienna 3.5
Recently Gone:
2006 Accord 2.4l K24A8
1993 Kawi EX 500
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Hermann] #1631167
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Virginia
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Virginia
They don't have any Honda dealers in MA? You can also get it at a Saturn dealer (until they fold up their tents) since 1st generation Saturn VUEs with the 3.5L Honda engine used Honda Z1 fluid. The Saturn dealer will have repackaged Z1, though I can't remember the part number offhand.


2013 Kia Sorento EX
3.5L AWD
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Familyguy] #1631173
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When the time comes for my 07 Honda, I think i will try Valvoline MaxLife DEX/MERC ATF.


Specs
Recommended for use where the following fluids are specified:
Ford MERCONŽ, MERCONŽ V, MERCONŽ SP and LV
GM DEXRON, DEXRON II, III and VI
Toyota and Lexus Type T, T-III, T-IV and WS
Allison TES 295 and 389
Nissan Matic-D, Matic-J and Matic-K
Honda and Acura ATF Z-1 (except CVT)
Mercedes NAG-1
Mitsubishi Diamond SP-II and SP-III
Kia SP-II and SP-III


99 Camry 144K SOLD
07 Accord 130K Miles
08 MazdaSpeed3 44K PP
10 Subaru Outback Gone
10 Mazda3s 95K
94 Nissan MaximaGXE 125K Sold
2012 Equinox 58K Gone
2016 Honda CR-V
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: 94MaxGXE] #1631188
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I don't have Hondas but the M1 ATF has worked well for me. I started using M1 ATF when Mobil first produced it. Here's the link.

https://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Synthetic_ATF.aspx

Last edited by tig1; 10/14/09 08:15 AM.

2007 Ford Fusion 235,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 60K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: tig1] #1631235
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Calgary Canada
Jim 5 Offline
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Pennzoil has an import multi-vehicle ATF that says recommended for Honda and Acura ATF Z-1 (except CVT).

I think I'm going to use the Mityvac and suck out a gallon at every oil change and replace it with the PZ stuff. I'll post results.


Jim A
07.5 GMC Sierra 2500HD LMM Rotella 15w-40
09 Odyssey EX-L CT 5w-20
66 Bronco QS 10w-30
08 BMW K1200S Rt 15w-40
08 Pitster Pro X4 Rt 15w-40
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Jim 5] #1631281
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I've been putting the Amsoil Synthetic Universal ATF in my Honda's and it's been working fantastically.


1989 Honda Accord SE-i 238,000 miles Amsoil ASL 5W-30.
2011 Honda Fit Sport 14,000 miles Amsoil XL 0W-20
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: nfs480] #1631289
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Red Line D4 works well in my Element.

Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Johnny] #1631296
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Calgary Canada
Jim 5 Offline
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Originally Posted By: Johnny
Red Line D4 works well in my Element.


Surprised you're not using PZ's Import MV ATF!


Jim A
07.5 GMC Sierra 2500HD LMM Rotella 15w-40
09 Odyssey EX-L CT 5w-20
66 Bronco QS 10w-30
08 BMW K1200S Rt 15w-40
08 Pitster Pro X4 Rt 15w-40
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Jim 5] #1631310
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If I did not have to buy it buy the case, I would. No one around me sells it by the quart and it only takes 3.5 quarts to drain and fill the Element.

I might add my wife's Element has the Amsoil ATF in it and it also works well.

Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Johnny] #1631684
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Silicon Valley
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Maxlife seems to do well in my Integra, then again, probably many import MV ATF especially those that meet JASO A1 will do.


"You keep asking questions PandaBear and you'll end up a vegetarian like my wife" - Camu Mahubah
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: PandaBear] #1631759
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The only fluid that meets the Honda spec is Honda's own fluid.

The other fluids are "recommended" by the oil maker for your car. They'll likely do a find job, but they have not been tested and do not meet the spec.




Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: Ken2] #1631792
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There are countless Honda Odyssey owners using Valvoline Maxlife ATF in thier Z-1 spec'd Odys. Maxlife is a "suitable for Z-1 use" ATF per it's specs. Obviously none are going to be approved by Honda. Keep in mind the Odyssey has probably the worst track record in regards to transmission longevity and Maxlife does excellent in them. There's not a single failure report of one running Maxlife that I've seen.

Joel


2017 Ram 1500 4x4, 3.6L. 2016 Nissan Quest SV (Babe magnet IV)
Re: Recommend Trans fluid that meets Honda ATF-Z1 [Re: JTK] #1631981
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Originally Posted By: JTK
There are countless Honda Odyssey owners using Valvoline Maxlife ATF in thier Z-1 spec'd Odys. Maxlife is a "suitable for Z-1 use" ATF per it's specs. Obviously none are going to be approved by Honda. Keep in mind the Odyssey has probably the worst track record in regards to transmission longevity and Maxlife does excellent in them. There's not a single failure report of one running Maxlife that I've seen.

Joel


+1


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