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0w60 oil? #162221
11/12/05 04:13 PM
11/12/05 04:13 PM
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Oakville, Ontario
Patman Online content OP
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At the detail shop I go to, one of the guys is into motorcycles and he tells me one of the motorcycle oils is a 0w60! I thought that viscosity was simply not possible to achieve?

Re: 0w60 oil? #162222
11/12/05 06:24 PM
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Doesn't the 0W refer more to the cold wear properties of the oil than to just the viscosity?

Re: 0w60 oil? #162223
11/12/05 06:45 PM
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I see plenty of references to it on the google search ..but no sites selling it. Most of them are German/Euro message boards. One says that it can be had from BMW [Confused] A few 5w-60 and Castrol has a 10w-60.

Re: 0w60 oil? #162224
11/12/05 06:46 PM
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quote:
Doesn't the 0W refer more to the cold wear properties of the oil than to just the viscosity?
No, it refers to two specific viscosities at two low temp points. In the case of a 0wXX oils, those points are -30c and -35c.

Re: 0w60 oil? #162225
11/12/05 07:28 PM
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Check downunder those guys like the big number stuff.

I got this: SAE 60

Apparent Viscosity @ -10C, cP (ASTM D2602 Mod.)= 8305

Look that up on your chart [Smile]

Re: 0w60 oil? #162226
11/13/05 06:59 AM
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Patman,

Thats why this guy is washing/waxing cars instead of fixing them. [Roll Eyes] [Smile]

Re: 0w60 oil? #162227
11/13/05 10:39 AM
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Millbrae, CA
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Using my blend calculator it is possible to blend a SM 0w/60
Vis @ 100=22.0
VI= 221
HTHS= 4.9


bruce

Re: 0w60 oil? #162228
11/13/05 11:19 AM
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Penrite has a 5W60 here fwiw.

Re: 0w60 oil? #162229
11/13/05 04:05 PM
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LT4 Vette, I'm not sure what you mean, the guy is telling the truth, there are 0w60 oils. Also, he's a very smart guy, even though he's working in a detail shop, I've had some extremely intelligent conversations with him.

Re: 0w60 oil? #162230
11/13/05 06:47 PM
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Glenshaw, PA
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0w60 weight is also mentioned on that wonderful Synlube site, and that NASA pays upwards of $100 per liter for the stuff. I also have searched and searched and no one seems to offer an actual 0w60 that is available in the USA. The closest that I'm come to it are these two:

www.sentinelsynthetic.com/english/index.htm

www.topoil.com/products.htm

One offers an actual 5w60, and the other a 10w60. The only thing that scares me from these apparently very good, covers all the bases viscosity is the cSt @ 40*C. They just seem way too thick for my climate at start up, particularly with winter setting in.

Re: 0w60 oil? #162231
11/13/05 08:48 PM
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0W-60 oil is the only oil you are allowed to put in your Ferrari Enzo and have a warrentee. At around $60/quart (shell) it is hiddeously expensive.

Re: 0w60 oil? #162232
11/14/05 09:36 AM
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Glenshaw, PA
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Sorry Mitch, but even I, the botique oil king of this forum, must draw the line at $15 per liter in cost!!!

Ferrari can keep there warrantied oil specifications for themselves... [Razz]

Re: 0w60 oil? #162233
11/22/05 02:20 PM
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Australia
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Penrite now selling 0w-50.Also they have 5w-60.
Castrol got 10w-60 Formula R.

Re: 0w60 oil? #162234
11/22/05 10:19 PM
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Vancouver, Canada
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If you go to the API website http://eolcs.api.org/ there's a link to a list of the various API grades and who's licenced to market them.

There are no 0w-60's listed, although there are a few 5w-60's and 10w-60's.

Cheers
JJ

Re: 0w60 oil? #162235
11/23/05 12:58 AM
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la jolla, ca
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For the 2001-2006 M3's (S54 engine), the Castrol 10w60 is the required oil as well as in 2000 M5/Z8 with the S62 and in the new V10 M5/M6.

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