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#162221 - 11/12/05 03:13 PM 0w60 oil?
Patman Offline

Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 20085
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
At the detail shop I go to, one of the guys is into motorcycles and he tells me one of the motorcycle oils is a 0w60! I thought that viscosity was simply not possible to achieve?

#162222 - 11/12/05 05:24 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
Tim Offline

Registered: 03/15/03
Posts: 828
Loc: TX
Doesn't the 0W refer more to the cold wear properties of the oil than to just the viscosity?

#162223 - 11/12/05 05:45 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
Gary Allan Offline

Registered: 09/28/02
Posts: 39806
Loc: Pottstown, PA
I see plenty of references to it on the google search ..but no sites selling it. Most of them are German/Euro message boards. One says that it can be had from BMW [Confused] A few 5w-60 and Castrol has a 10w-60.

#162224 - 11/12/05 05:46 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
G-MAN Offline

Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8936
Loc: SC
Doesn't the 0W refer more to the cold wear properties of the oil than to just the viscosity?
No, it refers to two specific viscosities at two low temp points. In the case of a 0wXX oils, those points are -30c and -35c.

#162225 - 11/12/05 06:28 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
Pablo Offline

Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 47250
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Check downunder those guys like the big number stuff.

I got this: SAE 60

Apparent Viscosity @ -10C, cP (ASTM D2602 Mod.)= 8305

Look that up on your chart [Smile]

#162226 - 11/13/05 05:59 AM Re: 0w60 oil?
Mr Nice Offline

Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 20680
Loc: Orlando, FL

Thats why this guy is washing/waxing cars instead of fixing them. [Roll Eyes] [Smile]

#162227 - 11/13/05 09:39 AM Re: 0w60 oil?
bruce381 Offline

Registered: 06/23/05
Posts: 3327
Loc: Millbrae, CA
Using my blend calculator it is possible to blend a SM 0w/60
Vis @ 100=22.0
VI= 221
HTHS= 4.9


#162228 - 11/13/05 10:19 AM Re: 0w60 oil?
sprintman Offline

Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 11006
Loc: Canberra ACT Australia
Penrite has a 5W60 here fwiw.

#162229 - 11/13/05 03:05 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
Patman Offline

Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 20085
Loc: Oakville, Ontario
LT4 Vette, I'm not sure what you mean, the guy is telling the truth, there are 0w60 oils. Also, he's a very smart guy, even though he's working in a detail shop, I've had some extremely intelligent conversations with him.

#162230 - 11/13/05 05:47 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
Dad2leia Offline

Registered: 09/06/05
Posts: 1202
Loc: Glenshaw, PA
0w60 weight is also mentioned on that wonderful Synlube site, and that NASA pays upwards of $100 per liter for the stuff. I also have searched and searched and no one seems to offer an actual 0w60 that is available in the USA. The closest that I'm come to it are these two:

One offers an actual 5w60, and the other a 10w60. The only thing that scares me from these apparently very good, covers all the bases viscosity is the cSt @ 40*C. They just seem way too thick for my climate at start up, particularly with winter setting in.

#162231 - 11/13/05 07:48 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
Mitch Alsup Offline

Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 728
Loc: Austin Texas
0W-60 oil is the only oil you are allowed to put in your Ferrari Enzo and have a warrentee. At around $60/quart (shell) it is hiddeously expensive.

#162232 - 11/14/05 08:36 AM Re: 0w60 oil?
Dad2leia Offline

Registered: 09/06/05
Posts: 1202
Loc: Glenshaw, PA
Sorry Mitch, but even I, the botique oil king of this forum, must draw the line at $15 per liter in cost!!!

Ferrari can keep there warrantied oil specifications for themselves... [Razz]

#162233 - 11/22/05 01:20 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
toyota62 Offline

Registered: 09/24/05
Posts: 899
Loc: Australia
Penrite now selling 0w-50.Also they have 5w-60.
Castrol got 10w-60 Formula R.

#162234 - 11/22/05 09:19 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
jaj Offline

Registered: 08/21/03
Posts: 1046
Loc: Vancouver, Canada
If you go to the API website there's a link to a list of the various API grades and who's licenced to market them.

There are no 0w-60's listed, although there are a few 5w-60's and 10w-60's.


#162235 - 11/22/05 11:58 PM Re: 0w60 oil?
windnsea00 Offline

Registered: 04/07/03
Posts: 651
Loc: la jolla, ca
For the 2001-2006 M3's (S54 engine), the Castrol 10w60 is the required oil as well as in 2000 M5/Z8 with the S62 and in the new V10 M5/M6.

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