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what's good for leaking valve stem seal? #1598889 09/13/09 02:35 PM
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95 Camry. I think that one or more of my stem seals leaks because when i first start up the car smokes.What can i use to stop this,besides auto-rx?


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: daves66nova] #1598899 09/13/09 02:40 PM
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Not much, valve stems seals become hard like plastic, and often crack and fall apart. Aside from a thicker oil, a HM oil, or replacing the seals there isn't much you can do.

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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: ADFD1] #1598904 09/13/09 02:43 PM
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a hm oil will help? does it soften the the stems?


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: daves66nova] #1598906 09/13/09 02:45 PM
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It might. A big might. You could get lucky though. Might be worth a shot if you dont want to repair.


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: Colt45ws] #1598913 09/13/09 02:50 PM
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In addition to Onmo's suggestion, my take is that: "nothing can fix a valve stem seal leak unless you replace them, period".


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: Quest] #1598933 09/13/09 03:06 PM
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Not much will fix valve stem seals except replacement. HM oil and/or a thicker grade might be all that you can do.

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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: StevieC] #1598947 09/13/09 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
Not much will fix valve stem seals except replacement. HM oil and/or a thicker grade might be all that you can do.

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Maxlife 10W-40 has done the best for me with this type of issue. It is readily available in most places and on sale often or about $14 for 5 qt jug at WM.

Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: StevieC] #1598955 09/13/09 03:25 PM
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Well, everybody else pretty much said it, but I'd at least give a HM oil a try before bringing it for repair. You just never know.


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: greenaccord02] #1598970 09/13/09 03:37 PM
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I see all the recommendations for a High Mileage Motor Oil. Are the additives really that good? The only pure synthetic HM oil I've seen is Mobil 1 and Valvoline Max Life. I wonder if the formula is any good since the M1is not SM certified and the 5w30 has a higher viscosity index than the 10w30or40 for both! Then I have to wonder why Mobil or Valvoline don't make a popular engine additive separately?

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/NAXXENPVLMOMobil_1_High_Mileage_Oil.asp

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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: noi8u] #1599056 09/13/09 05:32 PM
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I have some Maxlife engine protector bought at Big Lots. Looks like Valvoline does not make it anymore. I guess it was not that popular.


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: MONKEYMAN] #1599093 09/13/09 06:31 PM
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Maxlife 5w30 completely stopped the same smoking at startup in my 99 Camry 4cyl.
It took about 10,000 miles.


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: 94MaxGXE] #1601240 09/15/09 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: 94MaxGXE
Maxlife 5w30 completely stopped the same smoking at startup in my 99 Camry 4cyl.
It took about 10,000 miles.


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: noi8u] #1601433 09/15/09 07:57 PM
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Valvoline designed MaxLife specifically for valve stem seals...

Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: Nickdfresh] #1601585 09/15/09 09:45 PM
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I wonder what they use in Maxlife to "restore" valve stem seals. Viton is tough stuff and almost chemical proof. From my understanding you'd destroy it with any chemicals that would "soften" or "condition" it.


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Re: what's good for leaking valve stem seal? [Re: MONKEYMAN] #1603555 09/17/09 11:16 PM
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SM oil is not always an indicator of the better quality oil for a particular application. SL sometimes means that a particular oil, such as M1 HM, simply has an older, higher (better) level of anti-wear additives such as ZDDP, which was limited even more for the newer SM oils of certain viscosities.

If an engine is leaking, common sense tells me to stay away from more expensive synthetics and use one of the HM blends, at least until the leak stops. Maxlife blend works great here. It works way better than some of the common stop leak additives, in my experience. I have less experience with the other HM oil brands.

Also, not all valve stem seals are made of Viton.

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