Originally Posted By: caravanmike
i posted this in the maintenance section but only got one responce about a kia rio, so here go!
we are talking about my brothers 2004 santa fe with a 2.7L and an automatic transmission (2 wheel drive version) 72,000 miles.
i am changing the trans fluid with the hyundai sp III and have the following questions.
1) how much do i get out on a simple drain?
2) what is the quart capacity of the trans, torque convertor and all?
3) is this trans reliable?
4) is their anything i am missing?
5) is sp III synthetic?
thanks for anybody giving any knowledge! mike
How I missed this thread I'm not sure... Have the same truck with the same engine but an '06 and over 200K KM (120K miles).
I currently use Amsoil ATF which claims to meet the SP-III specification as
required by Hyundai in order for the transmission to function properly and so it doesn't end its life in disaster.
You can also use the Dealer Stuff which I find too expensive. It is a synthetic blend and it takes exactly 4 Litres if just doing a drain/refill. 1 Jug is all it takes.
Do yourself a favour and get a washer for the Drain Plug or you will have leaks. The washer is about $1
Also you will have to remove the Plastic skid plate underneath to get at the Transmission drain plug which is located near the drivers side wheel underneath the transmission and
not on the transmission pan. The Transmission pan is not to be removed unless the transmission needs to be rebuilt. The Filter if
not the external spin-on type, used in earlier models, is sealed inside the transmission behind the valve body/solenoids and there for "life" and doesn't need to be changed unless there is a problem.
Before you take off the transmission plug, pull out the dipstick so that air can flow in as the fluid flows out. This will save it coming out in spurts and from making a mess. (You will see what I mean if you don't)
If you have a spin-on filter (shouldn't in '04), change this at this time, you will require a jug and a quart of ATF to complete this change then.
Under no circumstances should you use any other fluid that doesn't meet the SP-III spec.
As for some of your other questions... If the fluid is changed regularly (40K Miles) or less or when the colour starts to change, the transmission will live a very long life. They had some problems in the 01's but then fixed them and have been rock solid ever since due to the auxiliary cooler located in the front of the radiator below the upper bumper line.
As for the total fluid capacity of the Torque converter etc. I believe it was something like 9 quarts, but I don't remember whats in the book as I never do a full flush/fill, just a drain and refill as described above.
Also wipe off the drain plug end as there is a magnet that catches metal filings/residue. You will be surprised at what comes off.
Good luck with the drain plug, it's a PITA to get at because of a support member that runs right beside the plug. A 22mm boxed end of a wrench is the best thing to take it off with if the skid plate is removed.
With my Skid plate off I cut a big round hole in it where the Transmission drain plug is so I could get at it in future without taking the skid plate off. I now use a modified 22mm socket which is shaved down on the one side so it can crack loose the plug & tighten it up. Works great and I would highly recommend this instead of taking off the skid plate each time.
If you need any more info, feel free to contact me by PM.
Steve
