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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: lexus114] #1441763
04/22/09 09:42 AM
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Probably about as worthwhile as the thick STP stuff. Liquid plastic. The goal is to reduce plastic in the oil.

Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: TallPaul] #1441841
04/22/09 11:08 AM
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At least the STP stuff has additives in it, and is cheaper!


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: addyguy] #1441903
04/22/09 12:07 PM
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It's strange how BITOGers will all band together against a product.

One person will claim to have in-depth knowledge of a product, and will claim that it is garbage, though that person has never used the product.

Then all other BITOGers will come in and try to be cool and fit in by bandwagoning against the condemned product that's not been used by any of these BITOGers.

Then when one person comes in and says "Hey, I use it, and my car's running like a striped ape!", this person is mocked as gullible and foolish, and that his experiences with his own car are simply psychological and in no way based in reality.


I like it cheep.
Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: Hethaerto] #1442053
04/22/09 02:55 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
It's strange how BITOGers will all band together against a product.

One person will claim to have in-depth knowledge of a product, and will claim that it is garbage, though that person has never used the product.

Then all other BITOGers will come in and try to be cool and fit in by bandwagoning against the condemned product that's not been used by any of these BITOGers.

Then when one person comes in and says "Hey, I use it, and my car's running like a striped ape!", this person is mocked as gullible and foolish, and that his experiences with his own car are simply psychological and in no way based in reality.



There was a study ON THIS SITE performed a number of years ago by the site owner IIRC showing that Lucas caused excessive aeration of the lubricant during use.

The lubricant in question was gear oil.

Last edited by OVERK1LL; 04/22/09 02:55 PM.

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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: Hethaerto] #1442068
04/22/09 03:05 PM
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Grand Caymans
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 Originally Posted By: Hethaerto
It's strange how BITOGers will all band together against a product.

One person will claim to have in-depth knowledge of a product, and will claim that it is garbage, though that person has never used the product.

Then all other BITOGers will come in and try to be cool and fit in by bandwagoning against the condemned product that's not been used by any of these BITOGers.

Then when one person comes in and says "Hey, I use it, and my car's running like a striped ape!", this person is mocked as gullible and foolish, and that his experiences with his own car are simply psychological and in no way based in reality.


Or folks post mass generalizations based on hypothetical situations being played out to support an opposing viewpoint.


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: OVERKILL] #1442302
04/22/09 06:19 PM
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If the study was done on gear oil, how can anyone be sure that the motor oil additive will perform the same way...??? Seems like an apples to oranges comparison. Still, based upon some of the other comments, I'll probably steer clear of it and use STP in my high mileage 62 Falcon.

Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: Bob_B] #1442380
04/22/09 07:16 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Bob_B
If the study was done on gear oil, how can anyone be sure that the motor oil additive will perform the same way...??? Seems like an apples to oranges comparison. Still, based upon some of the other comments, I'll probably steer clear of it and use STP in my high mileage 62 Falcon.


Actually, in the same test, they compare Schaeffer's 15w40 vs. I believe Delo w/ Lucas added.

Here's a link:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: panthermike] #1442417
04/22/09 08:00 PM
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 Originally Posted By: panthermike
 Originally Posted By: Bob_B
If the study was done on gear oil, how can anyone be sure that the motor oil additive will perform the same way...??? Seems like an apples to oranges comparison. Still, based upon some of the other comments, I'll probably steer clear of it and use STP in my high mileage 62 Falcon.


Actually, in the same test, they compare Schaeffer's 15w40 vs. I believe Delo w/ Lucas added.

Here's a link:

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm


You are correct. It wreaked aeration havoc on the motor oil as well.


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: OVERKILL] #1442505
04/22/09 09:45 PM
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How does it stabilize oil?


Why do people post I want the best for my car,,, When there isn't anything that is the best on the car to begin with.
Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: Steve S] #1442555
04/22/09 10:43 PM
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I also like how many BITOGers consider themselves some sort of "Oil Police" going about enforcing some sort of unwritten laws of oil usage. One may find himself in "Oil Jail" for utilizing a prohibited oil additive!

Then there's the self-professed oil "experts" that know everything there is to know about how oil works in an engine, and if they don't already know it (meaning they haven't read about it on BITOG), then they don't need to know it.

BITOG is loaded with awesome information about oil, that's why I hang out here, but d**n, the attitudes by some are hard to stomach.


I like it cheep.
Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: Hethaerto] #1442614
04/23/09 12:38 AM
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There is nothing in the elemental analysis. That's a fact that is a good basis for asserting it's worthless or worse.

Now, do YOU have some facts that justify it's use?


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Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: Audi Junkie] #1442624
04/23/09 01:12 AM
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i wouldn't trust it. i tried it once with an engine that had a rod knock, revved it to 7,000rpm's and it threw the rod straight out the block!

Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: hal] #1442625
04/23/09 01:17 AM
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[censored] oil everywhere. and the exhaust caught on fire. stupid piece of [censored].

really though i don't think any good oil would need something like this.

Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: Audi Junkie] #1442631
04/23/09 01:49 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
There is nothing in the elemental analysis. That's a fact that is a good basis for asserting it's worthless or worse.

Now, do YOU have some facts that justify it's use?


My car's running like a striped ape.


I like it cheep.
Re: Lucas Oil Stabilizer...??? [Re: hal] #1442634
04/23/09 01:50 AM
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 Originally Posted By: hal
i wouldn't trust it. i tried it once with an engine that had a rod knock, revved it to 7,000rpm's and it threw the rod straight out the block!



Any chance your engine would've done the same with any oil in there at 7000 rpm with a rod knocking?


I like it cheep.
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