Originally Posted By: 06VtecV6
Originally Posted By: blueiedgod
Originally Posted By: 06VtecV6
Originally Posted By: blueiedgod
Originally Posted By: 06VtecV6
I can tell it revs higher not due some butt dyno but looking at the RPMs and seeing that with full syn, the car revs at around 2500 RPMs at the same speed(around 80 mph) and with syn blends, it revs at 2000-2100 rpms and the power felt the same as in it would rev faster with the lower rpm and rev slower at the higher RPM with full syns.
I am not completley knocking down your theory, but if your engine revs at different RPM's at the same speed before and after an oil change, I would check the transmission. Unless you have a CVT tranny (which by the vehicle in your signature, you don't) You are looking at a slipping tranny. The gear ratios are fixed and do not adjust based on the engine output. If you are cruising in 5th OD at 2500 RPM before the oil change and at 2000 RPM after the oil change at the same speed, your tranny is toast.
Ah cork it. My car is super sensitive, that's all. It does this kinda stuff all the time. heh
You wanna put money where your pie consumer is? You say my tranny is toast, right doc? Well then how many miles do 'i' have then? :> We can do it by miles, months or a combo of both, take yer pick.. And how much are we betting? (Fyi: I am at 42,700 roughly miles). Go ahead < > make my day and new year!
If you don't wanna wager money, we can simply do it for your pride and soul on BITOG. That might be more 'priceless' !
I don't know if you have a V6 with automatic (cough, girly, cough), although Honda did make the V6 with 6 spd in the coupe and sedan for the previous generation...
If you used anything other than Honda ATF Z-1 in that slush box, then yes, your tranny is toast. No matter how tight and sensitive Honda may be, there simply no way that the engine would rev differently at the same speed and gear just because of the oil.
But, I don't own a Honda with Automatic, which kinid of defies logic, since Honda makes the best revving engines, and automtics kill any kind of advantage you get out of the high revving engine, so I can't be 100% sure. I just know that by design, an engine and non-CVT tranny will rev at the same RPM at a given speed in a given gear, regardless of what is in the crankcase.
If you have a manual shifted Honda V6, first of all, more props to you. Second, if you see different RPM's at the same speed in the same gear, then you are looking at oil leaking onto the clutch, or just a slipping clutch.
I guess I would have to change my oil back to pp and get on the freeway and demonstrate to everyone that 'Look, see the RPms at 2500 @ 80 mph??' Then drain it and put what I use now, the CP stuff and say 'look, see my rpms at 2100 to 2200 @ 80 mph??' I couldn't even make this type of stuff up people, as you all knooooooow, I am a serious newb and post some pretty wild stuff (although not at the level of Merkava.. ;0) Thanks for posting. I take it you had a happy new year. Regards.
200-300 rpms could just be your foot or which part of the 80mph mark you are on when you looked at it
Originally Posted By: blueiedgod
Originally Posted By: 06VtecV6
Originally Posted By: blueiedgod
Originally Posted By: 06VtecV6
I can tell it revs higher not due some butt dyno but looking at the RPMs and seeing that with full syn, the car revs at around 2500 RPMs at the same speed(around 80 mph) and with syn blends, it revs at 2000-2100 rpms and the power felt the same as in it would rev faster with the lower rpm and rev slower at the higher RPM with full syns.
I am not completley knocking down your theory, but if your engine revs at different RPM's at the same speed before and after an oil change, I would check the transmission. Unless you have a CVT tranny (which by the vehicle in your signature, you don't) You are looking at a slipping tranny. The gear ratios are fixed and do not adjust based on the engine output. If you are cruising in 5th OD at 2500 RPM before the oil change and at 2000 RPM after the oil change at the same speed, your tranny is toast.
Ah cork it. My car is super sensitive, that's all. It does this kinda stuff all the time. heh
You wanna put money where your pie consumer is? You say my tranny is toast, right doc? Well then how many miles do 'i' have then? :> We can do it by miles, months or a combo of both, take yer pick.. And how much are we betting? (Fyi: I am at 42,700 roughly miles). Go ahead < > make my day and new year!
If you don't wanna wager money, we can simply do it for your pride and soul on BITOG. That might be more 'priceless' !
I don't know if you have a V6 with automatic (cough, girly, cough), although Honda did make the V6 with 6 spd in the coupe and sedan for the previous generation...
If you used anything other than Honda ATF Z-1 in that slush box, then yes, your tranny is toast. No matter how tight and sensitive Honda may be, there simply no way that the engine would rev differently at the same speed and gear just because of the oil.
But, I don't own a Honda with Automatic, which kinid of defies logic, since Honda makes the best revving engines, and automtics kill any kind of advantage you get out of the high revving engine, so I can't be 100% sure. I just know that by design, an engine and non-CVT tranny will rev at the same RPM at a given speed in a given gear, regardless of what is in the crankcase.
If you have a manual shifted Honda V6, first of all, more props to you. Second, if you see different RPM's at the same speed in the same gear, then you are looking at oil leaking onto the clutch, or just a slipping clutch.
I guess I would have to change my oil back to pp and get on the freeway and demonstrate to everyone that 'Look, see the RPms at 2500 @ 80 mph??' Then drain it and put what I use now, the CP stuff and say 'look, see my rpms at 2100 to 2200 @ 80 mph??' I couldn't even make this type of stuff up people, as you all knooooooow, I am a serious newb and post some pretty wild stuff (although not at the level of Merkava.. ;0) Thanks for posting. I take it you had a happy new year. Regards.
200-300 rpms could just be your foot or which part of the 80mph mark you are on when you looked at it
