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Want to get 300K miles?
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Engines of today are designed much better and are tighter in nature so regular maintenance shoudn't stop you from reaching your goals within reason. I woudn't change the oil every 10 k or some goofy thing like that but, every 3k on a good oil such as Valvoline or Castrol really anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong. I have a 98 Jeep wrangler with 250k and no drivetrain work ever done to it. Grant it I have had to replace the normal things like batterys,radiators,water pumps etc but, no matter how good you take care of it that stuff is going to happen.
Originally Posted By: VR1
anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong.
Really? Better break out the flame suit. LOLOLOLL
anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong.
Really? Better break out the flame suit. LOLOLOLL
-Change the fluids on a schedule suitable to your driving style
-Change belts/hoses/coolant on schedule
-Address minor problems before they become major- IOW, don't ignore a grinding brake, growling wheel bearing, or a leaking water pump, fix it when you notice it.
That's gotten me past 300k on two vehicles and past 250k on another. And the two 300k vehicles were pre-1975.
-Change belts/hoses/coolant on schedule
-Address minor problems before they become major- IOW, don't ignore a grinding brake, growling wheel bearing, or a leaking water pump, fix it when you notice it.
That's gotten me past 300k on two vehicles and past 250k on another. And the two 300k vehicles were pre-1975.
Hey - I got 200,000 miles out of a 1977 Oldsmobile (350 Rocket V-8) running the old QS from the 70s...
I just changed it when I was supposed to!
It was running great when I sold it in 1990....so, even the QS of the old days was good enough for vehicle longevity.
I just changed it when I was supposed to!
It was running great when I sold it in 1990....so, even the QS of the old days was good enough for vehicle longevity.
People who put 300,000 miles on their car spend too much time behind the windshield. If you average 35 mph like my trip computer says I do, it takes 8,500 hours to reach 300,000 miles.
6,000 hours if you average 50 mph. I have better things to do with my time.
6,000 hours if you average 50 mph. I have better things to do with my time.
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I drive 12K each year. It would take me 25 years to reach 300K with one car; 50 years because I have two (summer/winter).
I don't care about 300K, I worry about corrosion. Around here the moving parts will outlast the body.
I don't care about 300K, I worry about corrosion. Around here the moving parts will outlast the body.
Originally Posted By: VR1
Engines of today are designed much better and are tighter in nature so regular maintenance shoudn't stop you from reaching your goals within reason. I woudn't change the oil every 10 k or some goofy thing like that but, every 3k on a good oil such as Valvoline or Castrol really anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong. I have a 98 Jeep wrangler with 250k and no drivetrain work ever done to it. Grant it I have had to replace the normal things like batterys,radiators,water pumps etc but, no matter how good you take care of it that stuff is going to happen.
So you think 10K OCIs are goofy? How so? I want to hear this one.
Engines of today are designed much better and are tighter in nature so regular maintenance shoudn't stop you from reaching your goals within reason. I woudn't change the oil every 10 k or some goofy thing like that but, every 3k on a good oil such as Valvoline or Castrol really anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong. I have a 98 Jeep wrangler with 250k and no drivetrain work ever done to it. Grant it I have had to replace the normal things like batterys,radiators,water pumps etc but, no matter how good you take care of it that stuff is going to happen.
So you think 10K OCIs are goofy? How so? I want to hear this one.
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: VR1
anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong.
Really? Better break out the flame suit. LOLOLOLL
I disagree with VR1 on that too. I think Pennzoil is excellent, QS, maybe not quite as good, but still really good for the money saved.
Originally Posted By: VR1
anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong.
Really? Better break out the flame suit. LOLOLOLL
I disagree with VR1 on that too. I think Pennzoil is excellent, QS, maybe not quite as good, but still really good for the money saved.
Originally Posted By: VR1
I woudn't change the oil every 10 k or some goofy thing like that but, every 3k on a good oil such as Valvoline or Castrol really anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong.
Anything but Pennzoil and QS? 3K oil changes? Are you sure you are a member of BITOG? This forum is for reasonable posts about oil. Not oil myths your father told you. Shoooo!
I woudn't change the oil every 10 k or some goofy thing like that but, every 3k on a good oil such as Valvoline or Castrol really anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong.
Anything but Pennzoil and QS? 3K oil changes? Are you sure you are a member of BITOG? This forum is for reasonable posts about oil. Not oil myths your father told you. Shoooo!
I have had 2 vehicles that had over 300k when I got rid of them, each still running on original engines, truck & Blazer. Never did a valve job or anything.
Originally Posted By: Burt
People who put 300,000 miles on their car spend too much time behind the windshield. If you average 35 mph like my trip computer says I do, it takes 8,500 hours to reach 300,000 miles.
6,000 hours if you average 50 mph. I have better things to do with my time.
I guess driving to work and saving money by not buying a new car is not a good use of time...
People who put 300,000 miles on their car spend too much time behind the windshield. If you average 35 mph like my trip computer says I do, it takes 8,500 hours to reach 300,000 miles.
6,000 hours if you average 50 mph. I have better things to do with my time.
I guess driving to work and saving money by not buying a new car is not a good use of time...
Not only is my work day 2+ hours, but I could put some miles and hours from a lot of hunting & fishing trips. Adds up. And I try to keep vehicles for awhile.
Originally Posted By: VR1
Engines of today are designed much better and are tighter in nature so regular maintenance shoudn't stop you from reaching your goals within reason. I woudn't change the oil every 10 k or some goofy thing like that but, every 3k on a good oil such as Valvoline or Castrol really anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong. I have a 98 Jeep wrangler with 250k and no drivetrain work ever done to it. Grant it I have had to replace the normal things like batterys,radiators,water pumps etc but, no matter how good you take care of it that stuff is going to happen.
Several years ago, Shell bought the Pennzoil and Quaker State brand names. Look on the back of these bottles and you'll see "Distributred by SOPUS" which means "Shell Oil Products US"
This is not your Father's Pennzoil/Quaker State.
I'm not so familar with the new Quaker State but the new Pennzoil has been turning in some very excellent numbers.
Just sayin'.
Engines of today are designed much better and are tighter in nature so regular maintenance shoudn't stop you from reaching your goals within reason. I woudn't change the oil every 10 k or some goofy thing like that but, every 3k on a good oil such as Valvoline or Castrol really anything but Pennzoil and QS and I really don't see where you could go wrong. I have a 98 Jeep wrangler with 250k and no drivetrain work ever done to it. Grant it I have had to replace the normal things like batterys,radiators,water pumps etc but, no matter how good you take care of it that stuff is going to happen.
Several years ago, Shell bought the Pennzoil and Quaker State brand names. Look on the back of these bottles and you'll see "Distributred by SOPUS" which means "Shell Oil Products US"
This is not your Father's Pennzoil/Quaker State.
I'm not so familar with the new Quaker State but the new Pennzoil has been turning in some very excellent numbers.
Just sayin'.
Originally Posted By: Burt
People who put 300,000 miles on their car spend too much time behind the windshield. If you average 35 mph like my trip computer says I do, it takes 8,500 hours to reach 300,000 miles.
6,000 hours if you average 50 mph. I have better things to do with my time.
Depends on your daily driving routine really. How far your vacations are, whether your job has you travel, etc.
According to my estimates, I've driven about 16,700 miles per year in the Jeep. But, I also have taken lots of trips to see family. To me driving to visit friends and family who are close to your heart but far from your home is worth it. I made a 2000 mile round trip last year 3x to see friends and family while I was in college far away.
3 years ago I bought the Jeep, and it has 50k more miles on it from when I bought it, and now has 173k. Not too bad. It will take me just over 6.5 more years at the current rate to hit 300k. If I do that, I will have saved nearly 10 years of car payments, if she holds up.
I'm cool with that
Although the numbers may go up in the next few years as I travel to Canada to visit relatives. That will be a real long haul. Fun journeys though getting to drive across the country.
Interesting article, and most of it remains true. They didn't tell you how many miles to change it at, just to follow what the engineers of the vehicle recommend. Safe statement I'll say instead of just saying every 3k.
People who put 300,000 miles on their car spend too much time behind the windshield. If you average 35 mph like my trip computer says I do, it takes 8,500 hours to reach 300,000 miles.
6,000 hours if you average 50 mph. I have better things to do with my time.
Depends on your daily driving routine really. How far your vacations are, whether your job has you travel, etc.
According to my estimates, I've driven about 16,700 miles per year in the Jeep. But, I also have taken lots of trips to see family. To me driving to visit friends and family who are close to your heart but far from your home is worth it. I made a 2000 mile round trip last year 3x to see friends and family while I was in college far away.
3 years ago I bought the Jeep, and it has 50k more miles on it from when I bought it, and now has 173k. Not too bad. It will take me just over 6.5 more years at the current rate to hit 300k. If I do that, I will have saved nearly 10 years of car payments, if she holds up.
I'm cool with that
Interesting article, and most of it remains true. They didn't tell you how many miles to change it at, just to follow what the engineers of the vehicle recommend. Safe statement I'll say instead of just saying every 3k.
I put 300K miles on 88 Town Car using bulk Motorcraft oil [5W30&10W30 from the dealer..I was doing mostly 5K OCI'S..It still had the original engine and transmission..It was mostly driving from N.Y.C. to Miami but there was gridlock mixed in..It was running awesome when I sold it and everything worked perfectly..Now I wish I kept it alot longer.
If I knew what I knew now I would have used Mobil 1 and did 10K mile OCI'S..I wish I knew tig1 back then.
If I knew what I knew now I would have used Mobil 1 and did 10K mile OCI'S..I wish I knew tig1 back then.
My 83 Honda Civic S lasted 200k miles with mostly city driving.
Drive train was in excellent shape but...
Faded paint and visible rust, all rubber around windows were rutted and sticky. Seats were worn out. Black bumpers were white and shocks needed replacements 100k before then. I sold it for $1000 in 2003.
Point is yes engines/transM last but the rest are really the deciding factor here unless you spend a fortune and lots of time still driving an old car.
Drive train was in excellent shape but...
Faded paint and visible rust, all rubber around windows were rutted and sticky. Seats were worn out. Black bumpers were white and shocks needed replacements 100k before then. I sold it for $1000 in 2003.
Point is yes engines/transM last but the rest are really the deciding factor here unless you spend a fortune and lots of time still driving an old car.
I do most of the work on my parents 2004 5.4L F150. It has 235,000 miles. 5k OCI's with different big name high mileage oils (depends which one was on sale) and motorcraft oil filters. Coolant and transmission fluid changes every 75k miles or so, and brake pads, etc. Nothing has been hanged on that engine or transmission. Only part that has been replaced was the fuel pump at 225k miles. I believe they will keep that truck for another 100k easy. It gets 600 miles per work week, plus 6-7 trips from michigan to southern kentucky a year. so, 300k miles really isnt alot to some people..
Well you can use it but, I know it will never see my engines. Even if they are good today I will never know. Oil is something I don't experiment with I use something I know works and rest easy at night. I didn't know you had a bitog type. I change it every 3k is a fail proof system on using a good oil. Don't reinvent the wheel.
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