Valvoline Additive from sodium to magnium change

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I see that Valvoline has change oil additive from sodium to magnium , boron. If someone know plz give me when they change the formula.
 
If the container says Dexos1Gen2 then it has the new formula. Valvoline changed the container design/branding shortly afterwards, but there was some overlap as far as I can tell... Pretty sure I saw old containers with the D1G2 logo on them.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
So what's bad about the formulation change?


I think its to help prevent LSPI. From what i've read, magnesium contributes less to LSPI than say calcium detergents.
 
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Sodium has been identified as a LSPI precursor so that prompted Valvoline to switch to a moly-titanium-boron add pack.
 
Nothing bad at all Zee0six.

Just another way to get there so to speak. Mg instead of calcium.

Interestingly enough Valvoline added Molybdenum and boron and titanium to their additive package as well. In their Advanced full synthetic oil lineup.
 
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Fast on the draw PimTac
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Beat me to it... Barely.
 
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Sodium has been identified as a LSPI precursor so that prompted Valvoline to switch to a moly-titanium-boron add pack.


^^This
 
Originally Posted By: Toh1
So all the new style jugs are no sodium but mg, boron and Titanium additive package?





Yes.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: Toh1
So all the new style jugs are no sodium but mg, boron and Titanium additive package?





Yes.


I'm curious if the napa syn will reflect the change as well.
 
Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: Toh1
So all the new style jugs are no sodium but mg, boron and Titanium additive package?





Yes.


I'm curious if the napa syn will reflect the change as well.




That's the proverbial 64,000 dollar question
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Originally Posted By: spasm3
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: Toh1
So all the new style jugs are no sodium but mg, boron and Titanium additive package?





Yes.


I'm curious if the napa syn will reflect the change as well.


Yes, they're dexos1Gen2 as well.
 
I wonder if this applies to the MaxLife SynBlend. The latest test that PQI seems to have on it was from 2014 for the 5w30. The bottle design is different than the one I got as well. According to that test, the SynBlend still used a lot of sodium and calcium. I also dont see anything on the pack about it being dexos compliant.
 
Originally Posted By: ArazelEternal
I wonder if this applies to the MaxLife SynBlend. The latest test that PQI seems to have on it was from 2014 for the 5w30. The bottle design is different than the one I got as well. According to that test, the SynBlend still used a lot of sodium and calcium. I also dont see anything on the pack about it being dexos compliant.


Probably about every major oil maker on Earth has changed their formulation since 4 years ago.
 
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: ArazelEternal
I wonder if this applies to the MaxLife SynBlend. The latest test that PQI seems to have on it was from 2014 for the 5w30. The bottle design is different than the one I got as well. According to that test, the SynBlend still used a lot of sodium and calcium. I also dont see anything on the pack about it being dexos compliant.


Probably about every major oil maker on Earth has changed their formulation since 4 years ago.


It's probably not a stretch to say that most any mass market dexos1 Gen 2 oil except for the M1 flavors changed its formulation somewhat around the time that standard went live (9/17).
 
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