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Here's some stuff I thought was common sense for most of us here, but maybe not or a good memory refresher since gas is fixing to go through the roof. Nice to see that the mode of thinking of 3K OCI's are going the way of the dinosaur.

20 ways you waste money on your car.



Don't spend a nickel without a darned good reason. Bone up, wise up and don't let anyone lead you astray.

Cars make us irrational. We call them our babies and lovingly wax them every Saturday -- or we turn up the radio to drown out the sound of a dragging muffler. Either mindset will cost you money, sometimes a lot of it.

Walking the line between obsession and neglect means you never spend a nickel without a good reason -- and good reasons can include spending money on something that’s not broken.

Here, then, are 20 ways you waste money on your car.

Premium gas instead of regular. Buy the cheapest gasoline that doesn’t make your car engine knock. All octane does is prevent knock; a grade higher than the maker of your car recommends is not a “treat.”

3,000-mile oil changes. Manufacturers typically suggest 5,000 miles, 7,500 miles or even longer intervals between oil changes (many car markers now include oil-life monitors that tell you when the oil is dirty -- sometimes as long as 15,000 miles.) There may be two recommendations for oil-change intervals: one for normal driving and one for hard use. If you live in a cold climate, take mostly very short trips, tow a trailer or have a high-revving, high-performance engine, use the more aggressive schedule. If you seldom drive your car, go by the calendar rather than your odometer. Twice a year changes are the minimum.

Taking false economies. Better to replace a timing belt on the manufacturer’s schedule than to have it break somewhere in western Nebraska. Better to pop for snow tires than to ride that low-profile rubber right into a tree.

Using the dealer’s maintenance schedule instead of the factory’s. Of course he thinks you should have a major tune-up every 30,000 miles. Most of the tasks that we generally think of under the heading of “tune-up” are now handled electronically. Stick to the manufacturer’s schedule unless your car is not running well. If your engine doesn't "miss" -- skip a beat or make other odd noises -- don’t change the spark plugs or wires until the manufacturer says so.

Using a dealer for major services. Independent shops almost always will do the same work much cheaper. Call around, owner’s manual in hand, to find out, mindful that the quality of the work is more of a question mark. Some dealers may tell you using outside garages violates the car’s warranty. This is a lie.

Using a dealer for oil changes. Dealers sometimes run dirt-cheap specials, but otherwise you’ll usually find changes cheaper elsewhere. If you’re using an independent shop for the first time, you might inconspicuously mark your old oil filter to make sure it has indeed been changed. And don’t let them talk you into new wiper blades, new air filters or high-priced synthetic oil, unless your car is one of the few high-performance machines built for it.

Not replacing your air filter and wiper blades yourself. Buy them on sale at a discount auto-parts store rather than having a garage or dealer replace them. Replacement is simple for either part, a 5-minute job. A good schedule for new air filters is every other oil change in a dusty climate; elsewhere at least once every 20,000 miles. Treat yourself to new wipers (it’s easiest to buy the whole blade, not the refill) once a year.

Going to any old repair shop. At the very least, make sure it’s ASE-certified (a good housekeeping seal of approval from the nonprofit National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence). From there, look for a well-kept shop with someone who’s willing to answer all your questions. Estimates must include a provision that no extra work will be done without your approval. Drive your car to make sure the problem is fixed before you pay. Pay with a credit card in case there’s a dispute later. Be courteous and pay attention. A good mechanic is hard to find.

Changing your antifreeze every winter. Change it only when a hydrometer suggests it will no longer withstand temperatures 30 degrees below the coldest your area sees in winter. Your dealer or oil-change shop should be happy to check it for free. Every two years is about right. But you also should keep your cooling system happy by running the air conditioner every few weeks in winter to keep it lubricated, checking for puddles underneath the car and replacing belts and hoses before they dry and crack.

Replacing tires when you should be replacing shocks. If your tires are wearing unevenly or peculiarly, your car may be out of alignment or your shocks or struts worn out.

Letting a brake squeal turn into a brake job. Squeal doesn’t necessarily mean you need new rotors or pads; mostly, it’s just annoying. Your first check -- you can probably see your front brakes through the wheels on your car -- is to look at the thickness of the pads. Pads thicker than a quarter-inch are probably fine. If your brakes emit a constant, high-pitched whine and the pads are thinner than a quarter-inch, replace them. If your car shimmies or you feel grinding through the pedal, then your brake rotors need to be turned or replaced.

Not complaining when your warranty claim is rejected. Check Alldata and the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA) to see if a technical service bulletin (TSB) has been issued about the component in question. Manufacturers often will repair known defects outside the warranty period (sometimes called a secret warranty). It helps if you’ve done your homework and haven’t been a jerk.

Not keeping records. A logbook of every repair done to your car can help you decide if something’s seriously out of whack. Didn’t I just buy new brake pads? With a log and an envelope stuffed with receipts, you’ll know who did the work and when, and whether or not there’s a warranty on the repair. And a service logbook helps at resale time, too.

Buying an extended warranty. Most manufacturers allow you to wait until just before the regular warranty expires to decide. By then you should know whether your car is troublesome enough to require the extended warranty. Most of them aren’t worth the price.

Overinsuring. Never skimp on liability, but why buy collision and comprehensive insurance on a junker you can probably afford to replace? Add your deductible to your yearly bill for collision and comprehensive coverage, then compare that total with the wholesale value of the car. If it’s more than half, reconsider.

Assuming the problem is major. If your car is overheating but you don’t see a busted hose or lots of steam, it might be the $5 thermostat, not your radiator. Or it may be that ominous “check engine” light itself that’s failed, not your alternator.

Not changing the fuel filter. Have it replaced as a part of your maintenance -- every two years or according to the manufacturer’s schedule -- rather than when it becomes clogged with grit, leaving you at the mercy of the nearest garage.

Not knowing how to change a tire. Have you even looked at your spare? Make sure it’s up to snuff and all the parts of your jack are there. Changing a flat yourself is not only cheaper, it’s faster, too.

Not keeping your tires properly inflated. Check them once a month; otherwise, you’re wasting gasoline, risking a blowout and wearing them out more quickly.

Car washes. Ten bucks for long lines and gray water? Nothing shows you care like doing it yourself.
 
Not bad. My only comments are:

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Originally posted by Schmoe:
Changing your antifreeze every winter. Change it only when a hydrometer suggests it will no longer withstand temperatures 30 degrees below the coldest your area sees in winter. Your dealer or oil-change shop should be happy to check it for free. Every two years is about right.

I need a new hydrometer. Mine doesn't go to -75F!
My father definitely agrees with that paragraph, but aren't there any additives in the cooling system to replenish? My Mazda owner's manual recommends replacement every 60K miles, so I just do a drain and refill every 30K miles to get half at a time. To me, it's worth the $5 and half an hour of work.

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Originally posted by Schmoe:
Replacing tires when you should be replacing shocks. If your tires are wearing unevenly or peculiarly, your car may be out of alignment or your shocks or struts worn out.

I think this should read: "Replacing tires when you should be getting a wheel alignment." IMHO, shocks are a distant trailer to wheel alignment and the condition of other components (ball joints, tie-rod ends, bushings, etc.) in terms of effect on tire life.
 
Besides replacing the fuel filter per the maintenance schedule, I carry a spare fuel filter in each of our two vehicles and make sure that my wife knows how to change the fuel filter in each vehicle. You don't want a fuel-starved engine dying on you out in the boonies, or when you're on a trip, or driving late at night, where a replacement isn't handy.
 
what's all this talk about fuel filter replacements? Many are lifetime (read "very difficult to access") and most will be fine for well over 100k mi. before replacement should even be considered. Who here replaces their fuel filter every 2 years? And for those who do, can we see pics of your (probably spotless) fuel filters?
 
I had an 81 Toyota pickup with the 4 cyl. engine and the fuel filter clogged up so bad at about 41,000 mi. that the truck just barely made it into the nearest small town late one Sat. night as my wife and kids were returning to Montana from Minnesota. That's why I carry a spare fuel filter in each of our vehicles.
 
How about not knowing squat about repairing cars and complaining that it's the car's fault you spent hundreds of dollars and it's not fixed.
 
I'll second the fuel filter issue.

I had one clog on me on a vehicle I bought used. The fuel pump failed at the same time and I'm sure it was from trying to pump through a clogged filter.

I change it every 2 years now. Last time I did it, I blew through it and it seemed very difficult compared to the new one. I'm now changing every year.

That vortec 350 goes through a lot of gas in a year, and I think the filter's just too small.

In the case of that truck, a filter a year beats a new fuel pump ($300) plus in-tank installation. I know from experience.
 
I cut my fuel filters open to see how bad they are when i change them. Based on my last one being about half way through the material at 12K I deduce that 2yr/25K mi. is probably the max that ought to be run, at least on that car. It never hurts to look. The interval could have easily been a lot longer or shorter depending on the circumstances.
 
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