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I drive 5.5 miles (one way) to work. So 11 miles total. I warm it up for 5 minutes, and am definately within full op temp about A mile in.

Before I go into my house, I idle for about 15 minutes (like to read the paper before I head in for the night.

I am happy with MC semi syn 5w-20 and mc filter, but the factory suggested oci is 5k. (thats what i'm doing). I'm not looking to extend it,but should it be shorter? What would you do?
 
Originally Posted By: hardcore302
I drive 5.5 miles (one way) to work. So 11 miles total. I warm it up for 5 minutes, and am definately within full op temp about A mile in.

Before I go into my house, I idle for about 15 minutes (like to read the paper before I head in for the night.

I am happy with MC semi syn 5w-20 and mc filter, but the factory suggested oci is 5k. (thats what i'm doing). I'm not looking to extend it,but should it be shorter? What would you do?


I would do your 5000 Mile OCI and then get a UOA done, and then go from there on whatever recommendation you get.
 
stop the warm ups and quit wasting gas .millions of people like you are just raising gas prices for all of us. 5k is fine. I would go longer as long as you do not rag the car.
 
Yeah, it sounds like too much idling in there for me. I typically wait a minimum of 15-30 seconds to make sure the oil covers the head plenty, but I, personally, like to find a coolant temp point (albeit, this and oil temp are not perfectly congruent) that tends to suit my needs in notifying me about how warm or cold the block is before I take off.

Waiting too long is definitely wasting more gas than you'd think, along with causing more fuel dissolution than necessary I'd say. Wait a brief but ample amount of time before taking off and just don't push the rpm's until you're getting everything up to operating temp.
 
Originally Posted By: chad8
stop the warm ups and quit wasting gas

Yup. That sounds excessive and likely unnecessary.

If you do want your engine to burn off fuel and moisture, take it out for a nice drive on Sunday and let it stretch its legs.
 
Thanks! I guess it's just because I see everyone after work just turn the key and drive off imediately in sub freezing temps that make me cringe, lol.
 
Just don't be flooring it when you leave. Dribe easy that first 5 minutes or so of driving. You are running a 5w oil so you would be getting good flow at start up.

5,000 miles is o.k for what you run.

If you want to extend it alot get a full syn Long OCI oil like Mobil 1 Extended Perfomance or Amsoil. Or go with something like Pennzoil Platinum, Valvoline Syn Power, Reg Mobil 1 etc for 7500 or so miles.
 
Originally Posted By: hardcore302
Thanks! I guess it's just because I see everyone after work just turn the key and drive off imediately in sub freezing temps that make me cringe, lol.


Man, this irks me too.
I have seen this quite a bit lately. One thing that has helped me keep a perspective on it is watching my mpg estimate on my DIC/OLM monitor. Just watching the average mpg's go down if you've recently reset it gives you a perspective on the mpg's you're losing over the course of a tank of gas by just idling.
Definitely let your oil circulate and not pump it cold when you start driving, but a quality oil should be able to flow proficiently with a small, yet ample, warm-up period.
(i.e. if the Amsoil I run can flow at -40*, I'm pretty sure at 60* I don't need to warm it up like I'm in the Artic! At 60*, by the time the oil circulates the head(s) well enough, it is probably almost plenty warm to beginning running easily on. And when I say circulate the head(s) well enough, I generally mean a 15-30 second period if it has been sitting and the oil has settled.)
 
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warm it up for 5 minutes, and am definately within full op temp about A mile in.


coolant yes, oil no IMHO; do you have a oil temp gauge?
 
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Originally Posted By: simple_gifts
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warm it up for 5 minutes, and am definately within full op temp about A mile in.


coolant yes, oil no IMHO; do you have a oil temp gauge?


I'd be interested to see some test results/data on this, although I know the topic has been covered before. I really don't know when it is at full operating temperature, so I would be assuming from there...

I let my coolant hit 90-100* before I begin driving (typically, which on my little car doesn't take long at all) and don't get onto much at all until I have been to the coolant's operating temp for a bit.
 
Originally Posted By: BeanCounter
Originally Posted By: hardcore302
Thanks! I guess it's just because I see everyone after work just turn the key and drive off imediately in sub freezing temps that make me cringe, lol.


Man, this irks me too.
I have seen this quite a bit lately. One thing that has helped me keep a perspective on it is watching my mpg estimate on my DIC/OLM monitor. Just watching the average mpg's go down if you've recently reset it gives you a perspective on the mpg's you're losing over the course of a tank of gas by just idling.
Definitely let your oil circulate and not pump it cold when you start driving, but a quality oil should be able to flow proficiently with a small, yet ample, warm-up period.
(i.e. if the Amsoil I run can flow at -40*, I'm pretty sure at 60* I don't need to warm it up like I'm in the Artic! At 60*, by the time the oil circulates the head(s) well enough, it is probably almost plenty warm to beginning running easily on. And when I say circulate the head(s) well enough, I generally mean a 15-30 second period if it has been sitting and the oil has settled.)


The biggest offender of not carign AT ALL about the vehicles is the US Government, Department of Corrections, etc.

I swear they try to break the vehicles, drivign them like Ferraris like .5 Seconds after starting car at 10 degrees outside, Morristown NJ im talking about you..., also non-stop "Dogging" (Gas, brake, gas, brake, gas, brake) the Trans.. Shame.

Shame, Shame, Shame.

I knwo because i have been in these vehicles. I too, cringed.

Yup, I could be in Jail and feel bad for the Vans, im that much of a gearhead...
 
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Not to beat up on you bud, but you let the engine idle for 15 minutes when you get home, and read the paper in the car????

Thats a big waste of fuel, and not doing your oil any good.

I'd shut it down, and read the paper inside. You must REALLY like your vehicle!
 
Originally Posted By: labman
It irks me watching people leave their engine idle to warm up wasting gas to accomplish nothing.


I let mine idle 10 minutes. Kinda burns off COndensation.. plus you CAN "Take right off."

Why is it a bad thing? I mean.. someppl warming it up for 30 or 45 minutesi knew ppl that did that with their Honda Accords int he Winter, to try to let the Heat build up.. my uinderstanding is it Did,. but musta taxed the engine... Now THAt i was even vical and said "Look, you probably have Heat after 15 minutes, You have SOME after 3 to 5, but FULL in 10 to 15 if you dont BLAST the Defroster and let it build"...


Really, though. 10 or 15 minute warm up.. HAS to let heat build, right?
 
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Hardcore302,

I drive my 01' Durango only on the weekends and try to take my truck for a good spin on the freeway for about 90 minutes to simulate a weeks worth of driving just to keep the oil hot and circulated through out the engines innerds. That way you drive out moisture collected while sitting in the garage.

Since your drive only about 5-6 miles per day IF the weather permis you should do the same I think. Your don't have to drive it hard. Just drive it easy and constant.

Durango
 
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