Royal Purple?

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Originally Posted By: yaris0128
Its a great oil but for the price it doesnt have a whole lot on the competition. Its just too expensive for anyone to use.


Unless your in Canada. I get it cheaper than everything except Mobil 1 and GC. PP, Edge, and even regular Syntec are more money. Edge is about double the price of RP.
 
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Originally Posted By: Ben99GT
Originally Posted By: OVERK1LL
Yes, sorry, that was you Ben. My sincerest apologies!


Haha, no apology required bro.


Really does show that without actual before/after measurements, that what one can glean from pictures is quite limited however.


Talking to the owner of the RP Cams, the factory spec according to Ford is exactly the same as what is posted on the pics. Have emailed Ford to see if they have measurements of factory specs or if they even keep them just to make sure I got the correct information.

To the OP, I apologize to take this thread off topic!
 
Never heard anything bad about RP. Lots of my friends with muscle cars love the stuff at the track.

Never seen a "bad" UOA with it. Give it a shot, run it 8-9k and post a UOA...let's see what it's got!
 
Originally Posted By: river_rat
I can't find any data on RP


What data would you like? They do have product data sheets, but they might be down for the time being. User BobFout, if you PM, may be able to help you. RP's licences were up for renewal, so the data sheets are being replaced, I suspect.
 
Thank Garak. I have them from 2 years ago, but can't find anything on their site for a long time. Anything more recent?
 
Im on 2nd current of RP oil 10w40 in my maxima I'm waiting for summer to get over so later I can put 0w40 RP oil in my engine.
 
Well, my input. I think Royal Purple is truly an awesome oil. As was said, it's a group IV oil with the synerlec being group V and I think they use a bit of group II for carrier purposes.

Anyhow, on the price. Like any other oil, just get it on sales like I do. Recently O'Reilly's had it on sale for a whole month for $39.99 with an awesome K&N filter. So that's around $5.99 a quart. Also, O'Reilly's sells the gallon jug of 15w40 year around for pretty cheap.... I think it's like $30 or maybe cheaper, I'd have to look again.

Also, you can do stuff like buy it on amazon. You could technically buy one of their 5 gallon pail's for $119.28 and that equals 20 quarts of oil for just $5.96 a quart. Free shipping, no tax. Or you could buy a gallon jug for $26.80 so that's four quarts for just $6.70 a quart. Again, free shipping, no tax. Or buy a 12 pack case for $86.49 which would be $7.25 a quart, free shipping, no tax.

Again, if you really want Royal Purple, it can be had for decent prices. It's one of the few remaining Group IV / V oil's still left out there, and if you compare the prices to other Group IV/V oils then you'd see, it's very competitive! In fact, compared to say Redline or Motul, it's downright cheap!

Also, to the above guy who said M1 10w30 HM is Group IV/V oil... how do you know this? Didn't Mobil 1 just come out and say they have been using their own custom Group III oil? I forget the silly name they called it, but I do remember this kind of blowing up here recently. Don't get me wrong, the end product is what matters and M1's HM oil's are absolutely great oils.

Anyhow, to the OP. If you want Royal Purple, I think you should go for it. They are a small American company who makes excellent high end products. Some of the best in fact. Their Synchromax is some of the best stuff I've ever seen for Manual transmissions that call for ATF. I've firsthand seen the difference, and not knocking Amsoil, but we first tried Amsoil's ATF and my friend seen the brochure for RP Synchromax and wanted to try it since it's made for just that purpose and we were both pretty blown away with the difference it made, even over Amsoil's ATF. Granted, that oil was not designed for that specific purpose like RP's was. But we were impressed.

Not to mention, RP's differential oil's are legendary. It's pretty much a consensus among many they make some of the best rear-end oil there is. Even people who don't use their oil oil will use RP in the rear.

I have some RP 0w40 I got on sale at O'Reilly's and it's going in my car tomorrow. It's a new oil they just came out with so I plan on giving my evaluation of it soon, and then doing a UOA on it just for grins to see how it holds up in my beastly oil shredder. But I plan on (very) soon getting some Royal Purple XPR 10w40 to run in my car as I bought a water-methanol injection kit and am installing it as soon as I get my throttle body spacer with methanol tap (only doing this as I don't want to drill any holes in my factory piping). But my point is, Royal Purple have specifically designed their XPR 10w40 and 5w20 specifically to handle running exotic fuels such as methanol, nitrous, alcohol, etc. It's what it's made for. Plus, that is a a Group V basestock oil and imo, the best oil on the planet, bar none. I can't wait to run it. But I won't lie, it's crazy expensive. For now, I'm content running the regular Royal Purple 0w40.

I have no prejudice for or against any oil. If you look at my post history or even my signature, you'd see I'me very fair to all oil's out there and have pretty much ran and tried them all. I have in my stash Amsoil, Pennzoil, Ultra, Platinum, Syntec, Edge, QS Ultimate, M1, M1 HM, M1 EP, SynPower, Royal Purple,GTX, Havoline, Motorcraft, MC5k and I forget the rest. I wait and catch them all on sale.
 
That cam wear photo is of a roller cam. That cam could be run dry - there is NO sliding friction. If it has wear its due to running a high lubricity oil that may cause roller skating. Sometime a "better" oil doesnt work with rollers.
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- No one has given me an OFFICAL link to prove RP pass car oil is base is 75%+ Group IV/V its ALLLLLL speculation. You want group V in your oil cheap? Go buy some AC refrigerant ESTER 100 and pour it in.
 
Originally Posted By: BobFout
E-mail sent. I thought I had it saved but I don't.

Here's the link for everyone else.

http://www.royalpurple.com/prod-pdfs/motor-oil-ps.pdf


A fact sheet that lists little facts - just like Shell.

If they are that much better - list the ingredients ... but no.

Translation ....... we claim to better but can't really prove it .


Also they continue the syn oil myth :

Royal Purple recommends waiting until the manufacturer's first
scheduled oil change or a minimum of 2,000 miles in new gasoline
engines before using Royal Purple. Allow 8,000 to 10,000 miles
before use in diesel engines


If they know this little about engines and oil maybe one should stay clear of the company and its products
 
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
That cam wear photo is of a roller cam. That cam could be run dry - there is NO sliding friction. If it has wear its due to running a high lubricity oil that may cause roller skating. Sometime a "better" oil doesnt work with rollers.
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- No one has given me an OFFICAL link to prove RP pass car oil is base is 75%+ Group IV/V its ALLLLLL speculation. You want group V in your oil cheap? Go buy some AC refrigerant ESTER 100 and pour it in.


Do you believe mfg's as a rule when they tell you about their product? I don't mean silly marketing but actual answers from the company/tech support on direct questions? Multiple people on here have stated that when asked RP asserts their oil is Grp IV. No half answers or refusing to answer as so many other oil mfg's give you. They come right out and say Grp IV. If it were not they would really be shooting themselves in the foot would you not agree.

I suspect however that you fall into the crowd here that hollers for proof about anything good in respect to RP but short of being there in person to see it you will disbelieve anything positive said about RP.
 
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Originally Posted By: badnews
Originally Posted By: BobFout
E-mail sent. I thought I had it saved but I don't.

Here's the link for everyone else.

http://www.royalpurple.com/prod-pdfs/motor-oil-ps.pdf


A fact sheet that lists little facts - just like Shell.

If they are that much better - list the ingredients ... but no.

Translation ....... we claim to better but can't really prove it .


Also they continue the syn oil myth :

Royal Purple recommends waiting until the manufacturer's first
scheduled oil change or a minimum of 2,000 miles in new gasoline
engines before using Royal Purple. Allow 8,000 to 10,000 miles
before use in diesel engines


If they know this little about engines and oil maybe one should stay clear of the company and its products


Stay clear of Redline too, they say the same thing.
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http://www.redlineoil.com/techinfo_faq.aspx
 
Originally Posted By: Audi Junkie
If RP was PAO it would perform better...or it ~should~ perform better.


Has anyone seen the unicorn? (A series of bad UOAs with RP that can be attributed to the oil.)

I don't mean a few 10 or 20 ppm here or there that some hand-wring and pace over, that's all noise and has no real impact on engine life. I mean actual *bad* UOAs.
 
Originally Posted By: BobFout

Has anyone seen the unicorn? (A series of bad UOAs with RP that can be attributed to the oil.)

No because i don't think allot of members run the oil and post UOA's.
 
Originally Posted By: daman
Originally Posted By: BobFout

Has anyone seen the unicorn? (A series of bad UOAs with RP that can be attributed to the oil.)

No because i don't think allot of members run the oil and post UOA's.


Engine tear-down is the only way to know then I guess...
 
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