Small /compact carry pieces suck to shoot. The "full size' hand guns are much nicer shooting toys. 10 years or so ago before selling my 20" barrel AR 15 an ex military guy only shot the M4 he was so amazed at the difference in recoil the longer gas system provided. Over the years I have sold the center fires and now shoot rim fires. They help new shooters find the front sights and learn trigger pull.