Oil filter media

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Where can I obtain the synthetic filter media used in oil filters.Preferably the same stuff used in canton ME filters??I would like to re-wrap and seal my own filters since they are incorrect from the company.
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what is it that you are having a problem understanding?

Pretty much everything.

Why are they incorrect from the factory? What do you mean re-wrap and seal? What kind of filters are these? What is a Canton ME filter?
 
http://www.cmfilters.com/spin-on.cfm

the link should explain the filter. NO BYPASS is what I like.This is a race app. I found (my bearings found) that the element is not sealed correctly out of the box allowing material to short cicuit internally thru the element.I have to manually take each and every element and re-seal the media to the end caps.If I could obtain the correct media I can re-make the filter as the element cage is re-useable and I wont have to deal with a company that would not admit thier failure and at the very least help me out by replacing my bearings.
 
just curious, but how did you come to the conclusion that the filter caused the bearing failure? also how long was the interval for the filter? not being a skeptic here, but I considered using this setup too but I could not locate an alternative filter supplier or viton seals for the mating surfaces.
sorry about your misfortune though, good luck!
 
I think he's saying that the company screwed him over and he wants to make his own replaceable filter elements so that he doesn't have to buy from them anymore.

It seems that the element is spiral wrapped around the center tube, not pleated.
http://www.cmfilters.com/tech.cfm
So, he needs a media with an acceptable flow rate for having to pass through layers of material.

I myself don't know any companies selling raw media, though I'm sure you can find them. Trying to find the identical spec'd media for the original I'm guessing will be kind of tough unless someone has some inside knowledge on what it is.
 
Post pictures of the inside of the filter. Something a bit better than the pics from their website.

Donaldson, when they first came out with their synthetic media, had meia migration problems. The synthetic fibers were getting downstream and causing engine failures. (They paid a few engine claims and recalled their product)

As CM is claiming thier filters are "depth" type..they could have the same problem that Donaldson did.

Donaldson solved the problem by using a cotton batting layer both on the inside and outside of the synthetic fibers. ( Fleetguard calls their Stratapore..which is a 5 layer bonded media. The #1 and #5 layers are the cotton batting)

This prevents media migration.

When a paper element is used and you cut it open..if you see a rip or tear in the media, generally this indicates a pressure problem.

With synthetic media, you don't see the tear. It takes a microscope to see where the media has come apart.

Synthetic medias are short fibers and under pressure can become loose.

So if your bearings are seeing some of the synthetic fibers..it may not be the "seal" to the end caps that is the problem as much as the media is coming apart and getting through the holes in the center tube and going down stream.

But hey they only cost $100 or so with replacements $13-20 with o-rings..

If you want to talk to them, do an oil analysis of the area around your bearings. Send them a sample and a lab a sample and compare the results. If the media is migrating, i'd check their warranty policy.
 
btw...

Luberfiner by-pass filters are "depth" media. As is their competitors.


Luberfiner wraps the center tube with a cotton batting to prevent media migration of the "depth" material. ( this media is not synthetic)

I know because back in my day you had to work in the plant building filters before they let you go out and sell them as a new salesman.
So cotton batting and media migration is not some new technology as Luberfiner has been building that style filter since the 1930's..
 
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