Well I met a guy today that had a gallon of Militec 1 in his trunk. I asked and he told me about it. Said put it in your bike. I said I don't use additives and if I did I would want to compare several UOA's to check wears metals etc. He said if you use a few ounces of it you have no wear. Then told me how his cars have 300,000 Kms (187,500miles) on them with Militec big deal so does the rest the world with 3000 mile Q.S. Fram. I brought up that I heard it was good in guns and on knives he agreed and said his buddy had one of those Glocks and they had to clean and lube it every 100 rounds at a competion to keep it going then with militec it went thousands of rounds without jams. I told him BS I own two Glocks and they don't jam because of a couple dozen rounds. It is either bad aftermarkets mags or bad ammo to jam them 99.9% of the time. He changes to oh no they just cleaned it every hundred just in case cus it was a comp, but with militec they went evry 1000. Well if you had no probs then how can you tell if it works any better if you still have the same non symptoms? Basically this guy was a goof and it's good he don't sell for them. Now on another note anyone use this stuff for anything? Could a few drops of Amsoil,Redline Shaeffers etc. do just as good a job on all those WD-40 type jobs?
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I went to Militec's site and under the Automobiles or car section a guy said his race car was at 330 degrees with synthetic and an oil cooler and they had to fix it every 500 miles or so because of the damage from the heat. With a little militec he said it dropped to 230 degrees and not as much maintenance. hmmm? B.S. !!!!!!!
I used to have Militec in my crankcase and (manual) transmission. Not any more unless I hear some solid good stuff about it from the likes of this board...Do I?
Just because it's A+ on guns or bike chains doesn't mean it will mix well with PAO's and boost them at 200 degrees, know what I mean?
Just because it's A+ on guns or bike chains doesn't mean it will mix well with PAO's and boost them at 200 degrees, know what I mean?
Sorry to put my foot in my mouth here, I had another look and it looks like impartial tests show conclusively that it works.
Anyone try it with good or bad results? I tried it, can't really say anything good or bad about it. FWIW I saw a lot more Diesel tests and testimonials. If something works on Diesels it should work even better on gasoline engines, no??
MoleKule? Patman? Help us out here please...
Anyone try it with good or bad results? I tried it, can't really say anything good or bad about it. FWIW I saw a lot more Diesel tests and testimonials. If something works on Diesels it should work even better on gasoline engines, no??
MoleKule? Patman? Help us out here please...
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"At the start of the manufacturing process, MILITEC-1 is composed of a blend of several
extreme pressure lubricants, natural anti-corrosion ingredients, extremely stable chlorate
esters, anti-wear components, and anti-oxidant compounds. This blend is then introduced
introduced into a chemical reactor. When MILITEC-1 emerges from our proprietary chemical
reaction process, it is no longer a blend. It has been organically bound into a unique,
pure, uniform single substance. In its finished form, MILITEC-1 is completely stable, so
it does not require agitation before use."
From their website, as you can see, they use a number of EP, oxidation, anti-corrosion adds, and then react them with chlorate esters (or chlorate waxes) to form a set of molecules associated with the ester molecules. In other words, they have "esterified" the additives into one big molecule.
I haven't used it or analyzed, so this is all I know about it.
The one item that does bug me however, is they say it is used on submarines, but only (apparently) for use on medical instruments. There is no prrof that Militec-1 is used in any rotating machinery or any machinery associated with nuclear reactors.
extreme pressure lubricants, natural anti-corrosion ingredients, extremely stable chlorate
esters, anti-wear components, and anti-oxidant compounds. This blend is then introduced
introduced into a chemical reactor. When MILITEC-1 emerges from our proprietary chemical
reaction process, it is no longer a blend. It has been organically bound into a unique,
pure, uniform single substance. In its finished form, MILITEC-1 is completely stable, so
it does not require agitation before use."
From their website, as you can see, they use a number of EP, oxidation, anti-corrosion adds, and then react them with chlorate esters (or chlorate waxes) to form a set of molecules associated with the ester molecules. In other words, they have "esterified" the additives into one big molecule.
I haven't used it or analyzed, so this is all I know about it.
The one item that does bug me however, is they say it is used on submarines, but only (apparently) for use on medical instruments. There is no prrof that Militec-1 is used in any rotating machinery or any machinery associated with nuclear reactors.
GM use's it in their machinery. I think Navy also uses it in their diesel generators and their injector testing stations. I used it in all my vechiles and firearms for a couple of years. I never noticed any thing in automotive application. I did notice a huge nifference in firearm though. It made all of my semi-auto's run much smoother. I had some target pistols that were real picking about amuntion and would jamb if low grade ammo was used. Miltec solved this issue. Back then I did not use UOA. I went through a gallon of it and never bought any more again. The only problem I had was that it took 6 months for me to recieve my order. They kept giveing me the run around. When I bought mine it was $200.00 a gallon.
Check the military users of Militec-1. FBI, Secret Service, Air Marshals, US Coast Guard and military here in Aussie. During Gulf war military took all that was available. Must be useful if these guys bet their life on it??
Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but this question about it being used by the Navy in submarines came up previously in another posting about 2-3 months ago. It is being used as a weapons lubricant, but not for internal combustion engine applications. As a matter of fact, both military specifications for engine oil (both diesel as well as gasoline engines) currently in use buy the Navy and the Army prohibit the use of any chlorine containing ingredients. Hence, it is not authorized for use as an engine oil additive.
mojo, I do not think that the chlorate ester used in miltec1 are quite the same as typical cholirnated EP aditves found in many snake oils. First it is not a free it is bound to other substances to create a new compound. It would be like someone banning the addition of alchol to the crankcase but allowing ester's made from reacted fat and alchol to be used in the oil. Alchol was used as an ingredient but is not an active substance in the finished product. I am sure molakule can do a better job of explaining this. Even if it is not used in engines buy U.S. Navy their is plenty of recorded commercial use in many application with UOA, Ferographic, resonate testing/harmonic testing,........ Only way to know for sure is to run it and test it.
I don't mean to bring this Militec stuff all over again, but here goes. I have read a few of the above posts, and one stands out. A guy asks how Militec mixes with the oil, and I have to say something about that. If Militec mixes with oil, wouldn't your oil level increase? After changing my oil, making sure I know what the oil level is at, and then adding 10oz's of militec to the oil, and then checking the level again, it has definitely risen, but after I drive around 5 to 10 miles, and then check the level of oil, it is back to a normal level.
So, doesn't this mean that the Militec has stuck to the metal parts of the engine, such as the bearing and cylinder wall surfaces? I doubt that it evaporated that fast. What do you guys think?
So, doesn't this mean that the Militec has stuck to the metal parts of the engine, such as the bearing and cylinder wall surfaces? I doubt that it evaporated that fast. What do you guys think?
Only a small portion of the volume would be active ingredient so that's too much of a drop without burn off.
Militec uses what I have heard to be a light Soy base oil carrier. It will evaporate quickly.
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