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[Vercingetorix]

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tests/The-7-BEST-All-Weather-Tyres-Tested.htm
For me it seems Goodyear would be the winner. Only 2 days of snow so far this year.

 

[edyvw]

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Tyre-Tests/The-7-BEST-All-Weather-Tyres-Tested.htm
For me it seems Goodyear would be the winner. Only 2 days of snow so far this year.

What happens if you get them next season, and it turns out to be snowy?
Michelin is appropriately the winner here. It does everything good or excellent. Not to mention, they retain initial performance longest.
GY does things really good, or not so good.

 

[Vercingetorix]

What happens if you get them next season, and it turns out to be snowy?
Michelin is appropriately the winner here. It does everything good or excellent. Not to mention, they retain initial performance longest.
GY does things really good, or not so good.

With 153 days of rain and 2 of snow I’ll take that chance. I’m not afraid of chaining up if needed.

 

[Patman]

I have the Nokian Remedy WRG5s on my Civic and they have done very well in the snow this winter and we have had the most snow in 25 years! Hopefully they perform pretty close to the same next winter when they will have about 20-25,000 miles on them.

 

[Kalle.J]

Michelin is appropriately the winner here. It does everything good or excellent. Not to mention, they retain initial performance longest.

Allegedly, never seen that proven anywhere.

Winner would be two midrange tyres summer and snow IMO.

 

[edyvw]

Allegedly, never seen that proven anywhere.

Winner would be two midrange tyres summer and snow IMO.

It has been known, and CR had a test a few years back, and it was posted here somewhere.
Yokohama performed the worst.

 

[edyvw]

With 153 days of rain and 2 of snow I’ll take that chance. I’m not afraid of chaining up if needed.

I would go with all season tires that will deliver better wet performance.

 

[Vercingetorix]

I would go with all season tires that will deliver better wet performance.

I’m literally sitting on 32 tires for 3 vehicles, I’m not buying anything soon.

 

[Oillover]

My last rental had Toyo Celcius 2 on it.
I honestly couldn't tell the difference between them and a mid-level all season tire.

Nice to see this review aligns with my experience.

 

[SubLGT]

Interesting to see that TyreReviews, a UK organization, tested the North American version of the Michelin CC2 instead of the European version, as mentioned:

.....And then of course we have the Michelin CrossClimate 2. The European version of this tyre, which is slightly different, is always one of the best in the snow and once again the US version proves it is the king in winter by having the fastest lap. Like the European version it's balance was a little understeer heavy, nice and safe, but also slow so I'm sure it has even more grip than this tiny advantage shows...

Also interesting is that the CC2 was rated #1 for low rolling resistance, despite lots of anecdotal reports that they have high rolling resistance. In dynamometer testing by Consumer Reports, the CC2 is rated as "very good" for rolling resistance, 1 step below "excellent" (the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4 gets the lowest rating of "poor").

 

[CapriRacer]

Interesting to see that TyreReviews, a UK organization, tested the North American version of the Michelin CC2 instead of the European version, as mentioned:


Also interesting is that the CC2 was rated #1 for low rolling resistance, despite lots of anecdotal reports that they have high rolling resistance. In dynamometer testing by Consumer Reports, the CC2 is rated as "very good" for rolling resistance, 1 step below "excellent" (the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4 gets the lowest rating of "poor").

First, Jonathon now lives in the US. Salt Lake City if I remember correctly.

Second, while the CC2 does have low RR when compared to comparable tires, it doesn't have low RR compared to OE tires - and many people are commenting on their experience after replacing their OE tires with CC2's.

 

[Kalle.J]

Also interesting is that the CC2 was rated #1 for low rolling resistance, despite lots of anecdotal reports that they have high rolling resistance. In dynamometer testing by Consumer Reports, the CC2 is rated as "very good" for rolling resistance, 1 step below "excellent" (the Michelin Pilot Sport AS 4 gets the lowest rating of

Rolling restance is big part of fuel economy, but air resistance "pump loss" is part of the equation to. That thread pattern is not super efficient in that department AFAIK.

 

[KevinMalone]

Good showing by Goodyear. I think I'd go with the WR2 over the CC2. They're quite a bit cheaper with similar mileage warranties.

 

[edyvw]

First, Jonathon now lives in the US. Salt Lake City if I remember correctly.

Second, while the CC2 does have low RR when compared to comparable tires, it doesn't have low RR compared to OE tires - and many people are commenting on their experience after replacing their OE tires with CC2's.

^This.

 

[IndyIan]

What happens if you get them next season, and it turns out to be snowy?
Michelin is appropriately the winner here. It does everything good or excellent. Not to mention, they retain initial performance longest.
GY does things really good, or not so good.

We found our Xice2's not very good at 8-9/32 at slush and deep snow grip. Wet grip was still there though, and still good on hardpack snow or ice. They will live on as the 3 season tire for the Outback though, so we'll see how they last in some 80-90F heat, but I think they will be fine.

 

[edyvw]

We found our Xice2's not very good at 8-9/32 at slush and deep snow grip. Wet grip was still there though, and still good on hardpack snow or ice. They will live on as the 3 season tire for the Outback though, so we'll see how they last in some 80-90F heat, but I think they will be fine.

I had them, twice. They retain their initial performance. They are intended to work that way. I had them on Sienna during bomb cyclone here when I woke up to 8ft drift in front of my garage and when we got 3ft snow that day. I took 48 or 49 people home who got stuck in snow with Sienna (Xi2) and than later with Tiguan (R2, which were really good in deep stuff and ice, but that is it). Their performance in slush is just bit behind DM-V2. In deep snow they were better bcs. deep snow still relies on snow getting stuck between sipes and providing traction on its own. Their wet performance was far better than any snow tires I had in the lst 15yrs and only VC7 and WS90 were better, but those are newer products.
Far better than Bridgestone DM-V2 and that junk Nokian R2I had at the same time on Tiguan.

 

[UncleDave]

What happens if you get them next season, and it turns out to be snowy?
Michelin is appropriately the winner here. It does everything good or excellent. Not to mention, they retain initial performance longest.
GY does things really good, or not so good.

The CC2 is great until you get to mileage which I don't see in this test.
Many comment it can remove as much as 2 MPG on average which if true makes it an incredibly expensive tire to run.

 

[BHopkins]

If you live in a region that has snow and ice in the winter, and are only going to run one set of tires year round, A/W tires seem to be a very wise option. And the Cross Climate 2 is the standard that all the other A/W tires are made to compete against.

But even the best A/W tires, like the CC2, don't stand up to even middle of the road snow tires. It definitely isn't in the budget for everyone to have a second set of tires, just for the winter. So A/W tires are a good option, and definitely a step up from all season (jack of all trades, master of none) tires.

 

[edyvw]

The CC2 is great until you get to mileage which I don't see in this test.
Many comment it can remove as much as 2 MPG on average which if true makes it an incredibly expensive tire to run.

Compare to what? OE tire? My snow tires also impact mpg.
You can't eat a cake and still have it.

 

[UncleDave]

Compare to what? OE tire? My snow tires also impact mpg.
You can't eat a cake and still have it.

Compared to the OEM tires and the majority of the entrants CC2 is down mileage.

One is free to pick any tradeoff they would like.

Many that dont track this tire elsewhere may not know this is one of said tradeoffs.

Point being for what it cost me to run them for 3 years at 15K a year I can buy a second set of tires.