So it was a bit of a splurge but I just purchased an older 2 post VBM (Challenger) lift. I'd been watching craigslist and facebook marketplace for a while and finally found one for about 50% of a new imported lift. I considered a new imported lift but went and looked at one that local guy sells. I didn't like the fact that the lock mechanism was buried under/behind the carriage and not visible to the eye. So I decided I'd rather go with an older USA built lift than an import. Owner was selling because he had to move his shop and the old lift wouldn't fit under the ceiling in his new shop. Unfortunately it was all tore down and stored in his new location soI couldn't see it run. A bit of a risk on my part... I guess I will find out when I get it installed in the next couple weeks.