No politics, no racial comments - but is it a good thing or a bad thing that the jury is taking this long for the Zimmerman case?
Jury time deliberating good or bad?
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I'd say it's good, they just starting yesterday afternoon how long do you think is too long? If I was on trial I would hope the jurors would review all of the facts before a rush to judgement.
If they had a verdict quickly the judge would probably have them wait to read it until any potential riot police were in place.
With all the heat on I hope they play by the rules as far as staying on topic etc so there isn't the slightest cause for a mistrial.
With all the heat on I hope they play by the rules as far as staying on topic etc so there isn't the slightest cause for a mistrial.
The critical issue is...are the jurors EXCLUDING EMOTIONAL elements of the case and ONLY focusing on the law itself?
If so the only conclusion is NOT GUILTY on all charges.
Not only that but the spokesman for the Jury should add that the defendant should have NEVER been charged with this in the first place since he was using his legal right under FLA law, and the former dist attorney and police chief were correct in not pressing a case against Zimmerman.
If so the only conclusion is NOT GUILTY on all charges.
Not only that but the spokesman for the Jury should add that the defendant should have NEVER been charged with this in the first place since he was using his legal right under FLA law, and the former dist attorney and police chief were correct in not pressing a case against Zimmerman.
How come FL has 6 jurors?
I thought most states had 12?
I thought most states had 12?
At least this trial has moved along swiftly compared to the Jodi Arias trial that lasted 6 months and a hung jury. No hung jury please!
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
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Understood - but I don't want to discuss the case. I'm just curious if the longer the jury takes is that a good or bad thing for GZ.
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Understood - but I don't want to discuss the case. I'm just curious if the longer the jury takes is that a good or bad thing for GZ.
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I thought you were talking about jury duty in general.
A jury has to weigh the facts and arguments and should come to a conclusion irregardless of sound bites and special interest groups.
I have been on a jury for a criminal case and sometimes the jury needs to review the evidence and testimony presented.
So I wouldn't say long deliberations are good or bad.
A jury has to weigh the facts and arguments and should come to a conclusion irregardless of sound bites and special interest groups.
I have been on a jury for a criminal case and sometimes the jury needs to review the evidence and testimony presented.
So I wouldn't say long deliberations are good or bad.
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I was on a civil jury trial where we spent the better part of three weeks in deliberation; it was awful.
Originally Posted By: GreeCguy
No politics, no racial comments - but is it a good thing or a bad thing that the jury is taking this long for the Zimmerman case?
Taking "this long"? My wife was just on jury duty for a drunk driving thing, and deliberations were like 6 hours. Considering the case, this question shouldn't even be asked until the middle of next week.
No politics, no racial comments - but is it a good thing or a bad thing that the jury is taking this long for the Zimmerman case?
Taking "this long"? My wife was just on jury duty for a drunk driving thing, and deliberations were like 6 hours. Considering the case, this question shouldn't even be asked until the middle of next week.
I was on a jury that involved a Mexican national that was accused of criminal sexual penetration of a minor. The prosecution did not give enough information to make a sound judgment. The jury ended up in a 6-guilty vs 6-not guilty tie.
Took less than 3 hours to come up with a hung jury.
Took less than 3 hours to come up with a hung jury.
Rumor is the jury is still writing some stuff for the movie....Kevin Costner (as from JFK) as district attorney, Danny Trejo as George Zimmerman. The background score will include the I-95 A...... Song (David Allen Coe/Spur of the Moment Band) during the prosecution playback of some voice recordings.
They are still dead-locked looking for a replacement for Chris Farley as the judge.
They are still dead-locked looking for a replacement for Chris Farley as the judge.
This matter was far from a slam dunk for the state from the start. I suspect someone on the jury is looking to tag Zimmerman with SOMETHING and the rest may not be going along. There are also numerous appeal grounds.
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I was on a jury that involved a Mexican national that was accused of criminal sexual penetration of a minor. The prosecution did not give enough information to make a sound judgment. The jury ended up in a 6-guilty vs 6-not guilty tie.
Took less than 3 hours to come up with a hung jury.
what? you let that guy walk? Given he was Mexican national, he has to be guilty! Otherwise, he would not have been charged.
Said sarcastically,
I was on a jury that involved a Mexican national that was accused of criminal sexual penetration of a minor. The prosecution did not give enough information to make a sound judgment. The jury ended up in a 6-guilty vs 6-not guilty tie.
Took less than 3 hours to come up with a hung jury.
what? you let that guy walk? Given he was Mexican national, he has to be guilty! Otherwise, he would not have been charged.
Said sarcastically,
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Jury's are just one of those things that's like playyin lotto!! Nobodu can read them for sure. Hung is what I've thought to be very real. All women and a lot of emotion in this case with very few facts from either side. Easy for someone to get locked on an issue and hang it.
Just found this info on the web -
Casey Anthony was acquitted of first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. The jury deliberated 10 hours and 40 minutes.
Jerry Sandusky was found guilty of 45 of 48 counts of child sex abuse after a jury deliberated for more than 20 hours over two days.
After almost 14 hours, jurors found Drew Peterson guilty in the death of fourth wife, Kathleen Savio.
The jury in the Conrad Murray trial found him guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson after about nine hours of jury deliberations.
In 1995, O.J. Simpson was acquitted of two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife, Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. Jurors deliberated for less than four hours.
Jurors from the second Phil Spector trial deliberated for 30 hours and convicted him of second-degree murder in the death of Lana Clarkson.
After 35 hours of deliberations, stretched out over nine days, jurors acquitted Robert Blake of first-degree murder in his wife's death.
Scott Peterson was convicted of first-degree and second-degree murder for killing his wife and their unborn child. The jury deliberated for seven days.
After four days of deliberations, the Menendez brothers were convicted of two counts of first-degree murder for killing their parents.
Steven Hayes was convicted of capital murder in the deaths of three members of the Petit family. The jury deliberated four hours.
Casey Anthony was acquitted of first-degree murder in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee. The jury deliberated 10 hours and 40 minutes.
Jerry Sandusky was found guilty of 45 of 48 counts of child sex abuse after a jury deliberated for more than 20 hours over two days.
After almost 14 hours, jurors found Drew Peterson guilty in the death of fourth wife, Kathleen Savio.
The jury in the Conrad Murray trial found him guilty of involuntary manslaughter in the death of Michael Jackson after about nine hours of jury deliberations.
In 1995, O.J. Simpson was acquitted of two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife, Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman. Jurors deliberated for less than four hours.
Jurors from the second Phil Spector trial deliberated for 30 hours and convicted him of second-degree murder in the death of Lana Clarkson.
After 35 hours of deliberations, stretched out over nine days, jurors acquitted Robert Blake of first-degree murder in his wife's death.
Scott Peterson was convicted of first-degree and second-degree murder for killing his wife and their unborn child. The jury deliberated for seven days.
After four days of deliberations, the Menendez brothers were convicted of two counts of first-degree murder for killing their parents.
Steven Hayes was convicted of capital murder in the deaths of three members of the Petit family. The jury deliberated four hours.
Originally Posted By: satinsilver
Both threads on this topic have been locked. Not a good idea to start another thread about it. It's probably against forum rules creating a new thread on this.
And a mod started the third one......are you going to try and make a point
Both threads on this topic have been locked. Not a good idea to start another thread about it. It's probably against forum rules creating a new thread on this.
And a mod started the third one......are you going to try and make a point
what would be a "bad" decision?(trying to figure out thread title)
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IMO the longer this goes the worse it is for GZ. Especially with the jury as constituted( more below ).
Quick = Not Guilty
Long = Guilty( of something )
The longer deliberations go, I feel, indicates they are trying to find some way to justify finding him guilty of something. Probably at least man slaughter.
This should have been a very quick Not Guilty verdict. The state did not prove their case in the least. I would be sweating with every tick of the clock if I were GZ.
How GZ's lawyers ever allowed the jury to be all women( NOT a sexist remark or view )is beyond me? To be a true jury of his peers there should have been at least 50% men. I truly feel women look at things differently and that does not bode well for GZ having the entire jury women, and 5 mothers no less.
I hope I am wrong but I fear a guilty verdict of some type is coming. IMO the best GZ can hope for now after all this time is a hung jury. Again, hope I am wrong.
Quick = Not Guilty
Long = Guilty( of something )
The longer deliberations go, I feel, indicates they are trying to find some way to justify finding him guilty of something. Probably at least man slaughter.
This should have been a very quick Not Guilty verdict. The state did not prove their case in the least. I would be sweating with every tick of the clock if I were GZ.
How GZ's lawyers ever allowed the jury to be all women( NOT a sexist remark or view )is beyond me? To be a true jury of his peers there should have been at least 50% men. I truly feel women look at things differently and that does not bode well for GZ having the entire jury women, and 5 mothers no less.
I hope I am wrong but I fear a guilty verdict of some type is coming. IMO the best GZ can hope for now after all this time is a hung jury. Again, hope I am wrong.
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