GM Goes All In on EVs: Pickups & SUVs

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...On Monday, GM announced the U.S. will get another all-EV plant. The company will spend $2.2 billion to convert its existing Detroit-Hamtramck plant to build only battery-electric vehicles. GM said that full employment at the plant is projected at 2,200 jobs—up from just 900 at the plant today. ...What will those vehicles be? GM said Hamtramck will ultimately produce a "variety of all-electric trucks and SUVs." While the company didn't specify underlying platforms, the plant is being retooled for multiple vehicles built on GM's "BEV3" electric-vehicle architecture. Specifically, GM said one of the new EVs built in the plant will be an "electric pickup truck" scheduled to launch late in 2021. It added that the recently announced Cruise Origin self-driving shuttle vehicle will be built in Hamtramck "soon after" the EV pickup truck's debut. The electric pickup may be a GMC Hummer, turning the well-known but polarizing brand derived from military trucks into a model line under GM's luxury-truck label GMC. Little else is known about the truck—and the rumored revival of Hummer could be wrong—but watch for little bits of information to dribble out at regular intervals over the next 18 months. ...GM's announcement couches Hamtramck as the company's first all-EV plant. It certainly doesn't mention Tesla, and it also ignores another company whose own plant dedicated to electric vehicles will open around the same time as GM's. That would be Rivian, the quiet startup that spent nine years in stealth mode before debuting its full-size R1T electric pickup truck and R1S electric SUV in fall 2018. Rivian will soon announce how much the R1T and R1S will cost and claims that tens of thousands of people have put down deposits of $1,000 to get in line for its electric trucks, which are expected to be produced in the second half of next year. They will be built at the Normal, Illinois, assembly plant the electric-truck maker bought from Mitsubishi several years ago.
 

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Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
 
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The market drives demand, not production. No matter how hard EVs are pushed, people will vote with their wallets. At some point I think the tech will reach the point where demand catches up to where environmentalists would like to see it, but I don't think we have reached that point yet. It will happen in my lifetime, if I live to a ripe older age.
 
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Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
No.
 
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Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
No.
Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
No.
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Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
Yep-Yep-Yep! The earth is in the early stages of global warming at an alarming rate. It was very slow and gradual for a couple decades. But not anymore. Full steam ahead. Governments are finally showing some concern, with combative plans starting to take place. Can they get the warming stopped?..... No. Accomplishing that will take major wars - like half of the earth's population must fall victim first.
 
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Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Yep-Yep-Yep! The earth is in the early stages of global warming at an alarming rate. It was very slow and gradual for a couple decades. But not anymore. Full steam ahead. Governments are finally showing some concern, with combative plans starting to take place. Can they get the warming stopped?..... No. Accomplishing that will take major wars - like half of the earth's population must fall victim first.
Wait, you didn't just make a global warming post, did you? Isn't that topic prohibited?
 
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Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
Push on EVs? Well, I've noticed demand. I bought one. Veganism? I am not sure what that is, but I have heard of it. For example, our Model 3 has "Vegan leather" seats. Banning air transportation? Nope. I am flying to San Diego this Saturday for $49 each way. But i can tell you Mother Earth does not need us, we need Mother Earth.
 
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Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
No.
Originally Posted by supton
Originally Posted by CT8
Has anyone noticed the sudden push on Electric vehicles ,veganism and banning air transportation to save the Earth?
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Yep.... Funny how these people follow a person who flies around in a private jet that uses more fuel in one cross country trip back and forth than the average American uses in a entire year... And that champion has a huge home that is not needed or necessary either...
 

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Originally Posted by ArrestMeRedZ
The market drives demand, not production. No matter how hard EVs are pushed, people will vote with their wallets. At some point I think the tech will reach the point where demand catches up to where environmentalists would like to see it, but I don't think we have reached that point yet. It will happen in my lifetime, if I live to a ripe older age.
Never. It's a sliding goal based on politics, not actual environmental concern, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by bullwinkle
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of electric trucks-wouldn't the battery packs be heavy enough to cut WAY back on payload rating?
You already know that the average truck buyer uses his machine no harder than your wife does her Xb. For most buyers, the pickup is more of a fashion statement than a tool. Give 'em 300 miles range, a real back seat and four real doors and they won't care about the 900 lbs payload capacity. If GM really follows through on this, then startups like Rivian are already DOA and even Tesla will take a serious hit. GM has always been rife with new tech ideas, most of which never pass the idea stage. If this new generation of GM electric trucks really does come to fruition I think we'll then see a major move to EVs throughout the average uniformed population. Don't forget that even these days GM retains a level of market-push power that even Tesla lacks.
 
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It's all about conservation. Design a car to go 10k on oil changes yet that car burns 5qts in that time frame.
 
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Originally Posted by fdcg27
[quote=bullwinkle] If GM really follows through on this, then startups like Rivian are already DOA and even Tesla will take a serious hit.
I agree on your Tesla observation, but disagree about Rivian. Ford is invested in Rivian as is one other big player I can't recall at the moment. If tesla doesn't ditch the current design for their pickup truck, the Rivian truck will outsell Cybertruck 10 to 1, or more. Rivian looks more like the traditional pickup truck layout and styling that Americans are in love with.[/quote]
 
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Originally Posted by LoneRanger
Originally Posted by fdcg27
[quote=bullwinkle] If GM really follows through on this, then startups like Rivian are already DOA and even Tesla will take a serious hit.
I agree on your Tesla observation, but disagree about Rivian. Ford is invested in Rivian as is one other big player I can't recall at the moment. If tesla doesn't ditch the current design for their pickup truck, the Rivian truck will outsell Cybertruck 10 to 1, or more. Rivian looks more like the traditional pickup truck layout and styling that Americans are in love with.
One point that I think does matter is that GM does have considerable push marketing ability even these days. GM still has a large dealer network that can easily be incentivized to push these new EV truck models as they will. Ford's investment in Rivian is not the same as Ford being invested directly in EVs either. More like dipping their corporate toe in the water and then pulling it out if the water is too cold leaving Rivian holding the bag.[/quote]
 
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