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Hi BITOGers and, if any, BITOGettes,

After ten years, 120 months, 520 weeks, and a whole lotta' days and even more hours minutes and seconds and ten light years the Mighty Obbop has taken the plunge for various reasons.... Cox cable broadband will be my connection to the Interweb thingy.

Going with the modem they offer, a Motorola that is supposed to work well with their set-up.

From past reading I am aware of the basic differences between dial-up and cable broadband regarding on-line security. But, I don't recall every aspect of the needed precautions.

Current security:

Free ZoneAlarm firewall. Nod32 anti-virus that has the ability to detect hostile code as it tries to enter the machine (via Internet Explorer and Outlook Express e-mail).

Tried FireFox in the past but went back to IE and intend to stay with it.

Oh, Spyware blaster works in the background and Webroot Spysweeper monitors stuff trying to enter the computer. I didn't pay for another year's Spysweeper updates but it still works monitoring hostile code.

AdAware is in there doing its thing and have the free Ewido that works but doesn't actively monitor incoming stuff.

Should I get a router that also acts as a firewall? Are there any other precautions to take that are unique with broadband?

Any tips, advice, suggestions or verbal abuse sincerely welcomed and will earn thee my gratitude for a few seconds, anyway. Maybe longer. Maybe for months!!!! Even to the point that if I should spawn I might name the creature after thee!!!!!!

Thanks in advance
 
It is my understanding that a lot of Broadband ISP's (Bellsouth is one, if I'm not mistaken) have built in security firewalls before the data reaches your computer. However nothing is full-proof, so ZoneAlarm and an anti-virus program are really all you need. Do weekly spyware scans with up to date scanners.

As for the router, unless you are wanting to split your connection to multiple machines, I personally see no reason to get it for just one computer.
 
Just be aware - you are on 24/7 unless you hit the modem button, shut down or disconnect. IMHO there are no built in Firewalls at Broadband providers. My software firewall is under constant barrage. Security up!!!

I like the idea of a router.
 
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Just be aware - you are on 24/7 unless you hit the modem button, shut down or disconnect. IMHO there are no built in Firewalls at Broadband providers. My software firewall is under constant barrage. Security up!!!

I like the idea of a router.




Me too. I wouldn't trust an ISP to do it right even if they claimed they did. Routers are inexpensive now, there is no reason to not have one.
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The Linksys WRT54GL gets very high marks for security and features. It has wireless capability (if you don't need it, don't use it), but it's a bargain for what it does. It can be had for $50 depending on where you look.

As far as ISP security, forget it. Take matters into your own hands and protect yourself. It takes only a couple of minutes of being unprotected before you are compromised.
 
It looks like obbop has a lot of software - I say he is close to a paranoia.

But I would strongly recommend a router as well. You can get a very cheap one - I have baught 3 802.11g routers so far - $30, $10 and $0 for the last one (a LinkSys WRT54G). Keep an eye on deal websites and you will come across a good deal within a week or so. A good source is slickdeals.net
 
If you're plugging your computer in through an Ethernet cable, you don't even need a wireless router. Wonderful things, those routers... assuming they're configured properly.
 
Okay... a router it is. Will poke around and peek at 'em.

Modem connects, so I was told by the corporate droid who likely could not differentiate between an oil filter and a hunk of linguicia, via USB or what is it... ethernet or internic card or are those different names for the same thing? Never had to dabble in LAN or WAN but I do use a FAN when it's hot in the shanty.

Thanks for the tips and mentions of specific routers, it eases the arduous search for freedom from the yellow running dog imperialist capitalist lackeys of the hostile coding horde.
 
Yup, a HARDWARE-based firewall is the best security investment you can make.

Be sure to configure it properly, including if you will have any wireless devices tied in anywhere. If you're not using it, turn off the wireless AP. Even where they can't break directly into your local "network", an unsecured wireless access point still allows passers-by and neighbors to steal your bandwidth . . . and perhaps opportunities to hack at the rest.

Turn off address broadcasting. The MAC filter is your friend.
 
Definitely use Ethernet instead of the USB connection for broadband. Most routers, including the WRT54G which I can also recommend, don't even have USB connections.
 
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Modem connects...via USB or what is it... ethernet or internic card or are those different names for the same thing?




The broadband modems can connect via USB or ethernet depending on the modem model and provider (cable or DSL). When I first signed up with DSL, I had a modem that connected via USB. This type of modem will not let you connect to a router. If you have that type of modem, you will need to get a broadband modem that connects via ethernet.

On the cable between the modem and the PC: if it looks like a large telephone connector, it's ethernet. If it looks like the plug that may be on the end of your mouse, printer or other peripheral, it's USB.

BTW, the other term for ehternet that you may have heard your tech friend mention is NIC (Network Interface Card).
 
Just keep in mind that a hardware firewall will only stop blatant inbound hacking attempts. If you're using Internet Explorer you can still get a drive by download of malware but Nod will catch those most likely.
 
Your defenses sound reasonably good.

Personally, I disagree with your decision to not use FireFox, but that is your choice. I have used both browsers, so I am somewhat experienced in this area. And while it is true that FF may not be quite as friendly "out of the box" (as IE), IMHO it wins "hands down" for features/friendliness (not to mention security) as soon as you add (and customize to your tastes) a few of the more popular/useful "extensions" (an option that IE doesn't have to anywhere near the degree that FF does). And there are even FF extensions that let you launch IE (for the current web site), if/when you run into one of the few (not standards compliant) web sites that is coded to only work in IE. So you needn't give up anything (including the ability to use IE when you want to), by using FF for most of your web browsing. But again, if you are just in love with IE, just keep in mind that you will be a little more exposed to exploits as a result (which means that your "other defenses" should be that much better).

One option I haven't heard anyone mention, is not running as the "Administrator" of the machine (and instead having a "normal user" account for regular usage, and only becoming an "admin" when needed for such activities as installing software). If you aren't an "admin", it is that much harder for a malicious web site to install something on your computer without your consent. Or if not being an admin normally is too restrictive (and it can be a PITA to constantly log in as an admin to do "maintenance"), consider getting "DropMyRights" (a free download) and then modify the shortcuts to your web browser (and other internet facing programs, such as your email) to use "DropMyRights" to run as a "normal user" (or even a "restricted" user), while otherwise continuing to be logged in as an "admin". It's not as secure as just running under the more limited account generally, but it is more secure than running everything with "admin" rights!

As others have already pointed out, an OK home/NAT router/firewall device is a good investment for the cost. Not only are they reasonably cheap (usually $30 - $200 depending upon features/quality/promotions/etc) for the extra real layer of protection they offer, but they also let you "share" your internet connection with multiple device in your home (for example, my home has multiple computers and hardware based VoIP/"Internet Phone" adapters hooked up to my DSL, and they can all run "at the same time").

And the higher quality routers can have other useful features as well. For example, the router (and router firmware) I'm using has QoS (so called "Quality of Service" controls). This allows me to choose which of my internet traffic is "first in line" if/when I'm asking for more internet than is available. One very useful thing I've done with this QoS, is put my VoIP adapter (my "internet phone") at the very front of the list of devices that get bandwidth (so instead of heavy "web surfing" causing my phone conversation to break up, which is what would normally happen, the QoS settings give my VoIP adapter all the bandwidth it needs to keep the conversations going and then gives my web surfing whatever bandwidth it left over)!

However, routers aren't a "cure all". A router can help prevent you from some types of internet attacks, but other types go right through a router (and are only stopped at the PC's themselves). For example, a router may help protect your computer against an internet worm trying to exploit some buffer overflow on some port of your computer. And that is real protection that you don't have without a hardware router/firewall. But OTOH a router will do nothing to prevent you from getting infected by say an email virus (and once infected, the router likely won't prevent your computer from being part of someone else's "botnet" either)!

And, as others have pointed out, broadband users are usually connected to the internet 24/7 (unless you turn off your internet modem, or unplug the cable). And this means that (unlike dial-up) you will be fighting off internet attacks constantly (not that dial-up users are "safe" by any means, just that BroadBand users are even more exposed). And you may be appalled to know just how many "attacks" are out there. As someone who has seen security logs for various firewalls (both at work, and at my home broadband), I can tell you that the number of attacks out there (for virtually all PC's on the internet) comes to several each and every hour on a slow day!
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So you have to be sure your "defenses" are constantly up, as one exploit getting through, can turn your PC into a remote-controlled computer "zombie" for the bad guys. Thankfully, decent defenses (especially when layered, which is why both a router and a software firewall are useful in combination), can usually stop most attacks "at the door". In fact, in most cases a BroadBand user taking some reasonable precautions to protect themselves, are actually more "secure" than the dial-up user that (falsely) assumes they are protected simply because they aren't connected all the time. So while protections are even more needed (with broadband), "the good news" is that proper protections are often effective (not always, but very often)!

BTW: One router function that most people don't use (and which not all routers/firewall's have) is the ability to log all traffic, both traffic that was blocked by the firewall and traffic that got through. Most people aren't bothered to worry about this. And unless you occasionally take a peek at those logs, it's pretty useless to make them. However, if your router/firewall lets you set this up (and that is one advanced feature I liked about my router), and you occasionally review those logs, you can learn a lot about what sort of internet traffic you have (including learning a lot about what sort of internet attacks your firewall protected you from)...

Oh, and anti-virus signatures often get "out of date" quickly, with the speed at which "the bad guys" are writing "malware". And "out of date" anti-virus info, can often mean that you aren't protected (or at least not protected as well as you may like) to some new threat out on the internet. But as a broadband user, you actually have an advantage in this area. That's because (unlike a slower dial-up user) you are almost always connected to the internet at high-speed. Which means that (unlike a dial-up user) it is practical for you to have your anti-virus set to update itself often (whenever your computer is turned on). In fact, I have my primary anti-virus program setup to check for new virus signatures every hour (not that the virus signatures are updated that frequently, just that I'll get the new signatures within a hour of them being released by the anti-virus company). As a result, my anti-virus defenses are almost always "up to date"!
 
Thanks for the tips, folks.

I will grab a basic router and connect throuh the ethernet-thingy vice the USB port.

I do keep the various "signatures" up-to-date.

I didn't mention all the critters I have, some run in the background while some come to life only when I poke at them.

I read on a tutorial (can't always trust them or they can go out of date) that once you turn off the computer.... no power at all entering the critter.... it is OFF, that a hacker/cracker/crumb bum can not enter your machine.

Makes sense. I am not a tech-type but did get up to the semi-advanced level of electronic training waaaaay back in the 1970s. I shut the electronic brain off when it is not in actual use. If I am mistaken, if there is sumpthin' I am not aware of that would allow outsiders to enter a computer shut down totally with no power to it (I unplug at the wall outlet all my electronic equipment) let me know!!!!!

I believe I will re-start the Webroot SpySweeper program. It has so many good ratings from trusted sources and with the way it runs in the background sniffing out hostilities, I believe keeping its signatures current, along with the ZoneAlarm and Nod32 running and with the router, I should be safe.

Besides, practicing safe HEX is the only way to go. I may turn on Active X a mere 2 or 3 times yearly and that is for Micro$oft updates and Active Scripting comes to life for HotMail and a very few other trusted sites. Otherwise.....no scripting or Active X engaged on my lean mean machine!!!

Thanks again for the tipd, advice, etc!!!!
 
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If I am mistaken, if there is sumpthin' I am not aware of that would allow outsiders to enter a computer shut down totally with no power to it (I unplug at the wall outlet all my electronic equipment) let me know!!!!!




You are correct. If the system is powered down, it is impossible to compromise it.
 
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Someone could power it up with a "wake on lan" packet
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Yeah, but that would have to come from his local area network somehow. Those packets are, as a rule, not forwarded over the internet. Besides, I think he mentioned using a power strip with a switch to turn it off. That would defeat any WOL packets.
 
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