Anyone ever witness a canceled flight reversed?

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Fffffff Jonas. Question is, when airlines cancel 24+ hrs prior in preparation for inclement weather, but the weather comes much later and nothing is happening, can they call it on the fly?
Case in point, have a 7:38pm flight tomorrow out of Philly. Storm is definitely coming, but first snowfall is predicted at 11pm. This is maddening, it's just going to be cloudy up until then. Has anyone seen this happen?
Of course I called, no help other than changing day or getting reimbursed of some sort.
 
No.

Once the cancellation happens, the crew and machine are taken out of service. Once they're on rest, it's not easy to put them back into a schedule. So many rules must be satisfied.

Even if the weather doesn't show up, operating that flight with the few passengers that might show up would be a huge money loser.
 
He's already canceled.

Of course, had the airline not pro-actively canceled his flight, there would be hundreds of passengers from his flight alone complaining to the media about how they're "stranded" in the terminal...how the airline is "holding them hostage"...and my favorite, "lying" to them.

A United airlines 757 made an emergency landing in Norfolk the other day. An engine problem as it flew from EWR to Santo Domingo.

The passengers were "screaming and crying" during the landing. The important point is that the landing was smooth, and 213 people walked safely off that airplane into the Norfolk terminal.

The very same passenger who described the screaming and crying, then went on to tell our local news that they were "lied to" and "held hostage" and that there was "no food".

Even though all the restaurants were open. Even though United paid for everyone's hotel and meals while they spent the night. Even though United got them all on flights the next day.

Did I mention that 213 people walked safely off that airplane?

Now, multiply that group of people by dozens, or even hundreds, of flights and you can't imagine the chaos. Thousands of people losing their composure, all screaming at the customer service agent, who has no control over flight cancellations, or the impact of the weather on the ability of that airport to operate safely. I've seen it. Quite the show...particularly when the local news shows up and will turn a camera on the most "colorful" of the story tellers...

Better to proactively cancel and rebook everyone than to create the conditions for an angry, entitled, mob of thousands who've suddenly become airline experts and demand that airplanes operate when it isn't safe to do so...
 
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What are the chances of a flight from Boston to Baltimore taking off on early Sunday morning? When will they cancel that flight?
 
Vikas - That's a question for your airline....

Different airlines work with the various airport authorities to make those decisions.

Baltimore is supposed to get quite a bit of snow...and that means cancelations.

Usually, they try to cancel about 24 hours prior if they're trying to manage a weather event.
 
Remember the airlines have home ports for their crews and a major storm scatters them in such a way it takes a while to re home them and get back on schedule.
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
He's already canceled.

Of course, had the airline not pro-actively canceled his flight, there would be hundreds of passengers from his flight alone complaining to the media about how they're "stranded" in the terminal...how the airline is "holding them hostage"...and my favorite, "lying" to them.

A United airlines 757 made an emergency landing in Norfolk the other day. An engine problem as it flew from EWR to Santo Domingo.

The passengers were "screaming and crying" during the landing. The important point is that the landing was smooth, and 213 people walked safely off that airplane into the Norfolk terminal.

The very same passenger who described the screaming and crying, then went on to tell our local news that they were "lied to" and "held hostage" and that there was "no food".

Even though all the restaurants were open. Even though United paid for everyone's hotel and meals while they spent the night. Even though United got them all on flights the next day.

Did I mention that 213 people walked safely off that airplane?

Now, multiply that group of people by dozens, or even hundreds, of flights and you can't imagine the chaos. Thousands of people losing their composure, all screaming at the customer service agent, who has no control over flight cancellations, or the impact of the weather on the ability of that airport to operate safely. I've seen it. Quite the show...particularly when the local news shows up and will turn a camera on the most "colorful" of the story tellers...

Better to proactively cancel and rebook everyone than to create the conditions for an angry, entitled, mob of thousands who've suddenly become airline experts and demand that airplanes operate when it isn't safe to do so...


Well said. Too bad that there are too many mindless sheeple that demand that things.must.always.go.my.way and blame someone else for things completely beyond their control.
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
He's already canceled.

Of course, had the airline not pro-actively canceled his flight, there would be hundreds of passengers from his flight alone complaining to the media about how they're "stranded" in the terminal...how the airline is "holding them hostage"...and my favorite, "lying" to them.

A United airlines 757 made an emergency landing in Norfolk the other day. An engine problem as it flew from EWR to Santo Domingo.

The passengers were "screaming and crying" during the landing. The important point is that the landing was smooth, and 213 people walked safely off that airplane into the Norfolk terminal.

The very same passenger who described the screaming and crying, then went on to tell our local news that they were "lied to" and "held hostage" and that there was "no food".

Even though all the restaurants were open. Even though United paid for everyone's hotel and meals while they spent the night. Even though United got them all on flights the next day.

Did I mention that 213 people walked safely off that airplane?

Now, multiply that group of people by dozens, or even hundreds, of flights and you can't imagine the chaos. Thousands of people losing their composure, all screaming at the customer service agent, who has no control over flight cancellations, or the impact of the weather on the ability of that airport to operate safely. I've seen it. Quite the show...particularly when the local news shows up and will turn a camera on the most "colorful" of the story tellers...

Better to proactively cancel and rebook everyone than to create the conditions for an angry, entitled, mob of thousands who've suddenly become airline experts and demand that airplanes operate when it isn't safe to do so...


Entitled. That is the best. Word. Ever.

I like the guys (typically NY cabbies!) that grab a small coffee.. then sit in the parking lot for 2-3 hours.

That's not the best example, but, yes, entitled folks pee me off. And that includes the local druggie homeless (there are not any legitimate homeless here. Body language tells it all. And manner. Even they have attitude problems..)

This world is in the toilet, folks. All I can do is roll with it. Leave the revolutions to the politicians, since everyone is of their own mind.. ever see how people drive? 😨
 
Originally Posted By: Brasileno
Originally Posted By: Astro14
He's already canceled.

Of course, had the airline not pro-actively canceled his flight, there would be hundreds of passengers from his flight alone complaining to the media about how they're "stranded" in the terminal...how the airline is "holding them hostage"...and my favorite, "lying" to them.

A United airlines 757 made an emergency landing in Norfolk the other day. An engine problem as it flew from EWR to Santo Domingo.

The passengers were "screaming and crying" during the landing. The important point is that the landing was smooth, and 213 people walked safely off that airplane into the Norfolk terminal.

The very same passenger who described the screaming and crying, then went on to tell our local news that they were "lied to" and "held hostage" and that there was "no food".

Even though all the restaurants were open. Even though United paid for everyone's hotel and meals while they spent the night. Even though United got them all on flights the next day.

Did I mention that 213 people walked safely off that airplane?

Now, multiply that group of people by dozens, or even hundreds, of flights and you can't imagine the chaos. Thousands of people losing their composure, all screaming at the customer service agent, who has no control over flight cancellations, or the impact of the weather on the ability of that airport to operate safely. I've seen it. Quite the show...particularly when the local news shows up and will turn a camera on the most "colorful" of the story tellers...

Better to proactively cancel and rebook everyone than to create the conditions for an angry, entitled, mob of thousands who've suddenly become airline experts and demand that airplanes operate when it isn't safe to do so...


Entitled. That is the best. Word. Ever.

I like the guys (typically NY cabbies!) that grab a small coffee.. then sit in the parking lot for 2-3 hours.

That's not the best example, but, yes, entitled folks pee me off. And that includes the local druggie homeless (there are not any legitimate homeless here. Body language tells it all. And manner. Even they have attitude problems..)

This world is in the toilet, folks. All I can do is roll with it. Leave the revolutions to the politicians, since everyone is of their own mind.. ever see how people drive? 😨


Entitlement
"the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment."

The irony...
 
Originally Posted By: Astro14
He's already canceled.

Of course, had the airline not pro-actively canceled his flight, there would be hundreds of passengers from his flight alone complaining to the media about how they're "stranded" in the terminal...how the airline is "holding them hostage"...and my favorite, "lying" to them.

A United airlines 757 made an emergency landing in Norfolk the other day. An engine problem as it flew from EWR to Santo Domingo.

The passengers were "screaming and crying" during the landing. The important point is that the landing was smooth, and 213 people walked safely off that airplane into the Norfolk terminal.

The very same passenger who described the screaming and crying, then went on to tell our local news that they were "lied to" and "held hostage" and that there was "no food".

Even though all the restaurants were open. Even though United paid for everyone's hotel and meals while they spent the night. Even though United got them all on flights the next day.

Did I mention that 213 people walked safely off that airplane?

Now, multiply that group of people by dozens, or even hundreds, of flights and you can't imagine the chaos. Thousands of people losing their composure, all screaming at the customer service agent, who has no control over flight cancellations, or the impact of the weather on the ability of that airport to operate safely. I've seen it. Quite the show...particularly when the local news shows up and will turn a camera on the most "colorful" of the story tellers...

Better to proactively cancel and rebook everyone than to create the conditions for an angry, entitled, mob of thousands who've suddenly become airline experts and demand that airplanes operate when it isn't safe to do so...


^^This^^. As someone who travels by air for a living, I can't believe what I see on a daily basis. 1.8M miles in the air and counting....
 
Originally Posted By: Brasileno
This world is in the toilet, folks. All I can do is roll with it. Leave the revolutions to the politicians, since everyone is of their own mind.. ever see how people drive? 😨


So who else is on your list of people who will be first against the wall in the revolution?
 
Don't forget: after extensive Tarmac delays, and congressional hearings into them, laws were passed with severe fines for the airlines, should their airplanes be delayed on the Tarmac. $27,500/passenger adds up to quite a bit per airplane.

So....think the airlines have changed their operation as a result?

Of course they have. They pro-actively cancel flights now. Fewer chances of extensive delays. Fewer chances to be fined.

The traveling public got what they wanted: a law punishing airlines for long delays. So, the airlines work to cancel flights, instead of being subject to that fine...just like the people wanted...sort of....
 
90% of all passengers look at air travel the same way they view shopping at Walmart.

Of course majority of passengers are nasty bitter idiots.
 
I would be more than happy to drive 1000 miles than be stuck on a grounded flight with terrible passengers that act like children as to why the pilot can't fly in such bad weather conditions.
 
I was supposed to fly to the northeast on Thursday and back home on Saturday. I looked at the approaching storm, the cancellations, and said screw it. I'd rather be comfy at home than stuck at an airport for DAYS.
 
Only time I've seen it reversed is when a plane breaks, flight is cancelled, but they manage to get another plane in time to take its place.
Usually once they cancel, it blows away everything, so they don't bother, even if the bad weather never materializes.
 
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