Amsoil 0W-30, 14,198 MILES, 1993 Civic

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Originally Posted by madeej11
Not to put a damper on a great thread harry but why are you posting in such a strange format? I keep thinking you're starting a new paragraph yet it's in the middle of a sentence. Never seen that one before. Anyway harry, keep on keepin' on. By the way, I'm also an Amsoil fanboy, great stuff. Cheers!
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JLTD, Transmission fluid is changed at the same time as the oil, it takes 3 qts.
Thanks --So is that about every 40,000 miles?
 
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Miles on Civic--555,621 Miles on oil--6,307 Amsoil 0W-30 AZO Amsoil EA15K20 Twin Filtermag CT3.2's Dimple magnetic oil drain plug 5 ozs Liquimoly 24 ozs make up oil Blackstone Labs; It looks like the new head gasket was exactly what the doctor ordered for this Civic. Both Potassium and Sodium are much lower. Note also the improvement in iron, though it was on it's way to being lower last time too. The lack of coolant in the oil is certainly a good thing when it comes to getting even more miles out of the engine. The other metals are low and steady, just like we're used to seeing. TBN shows active additive left and the ISO Cleanliness Code read 15/14/11, a little cleaner than last time. The air and oil filters kept silicon and insoluble low. [code][/code] Aluminum---------3-----------------------------------4 universal average based on 5,900 miles Chromium--------0------------------------------------1 Iron-----------------5------------------------------------9 Copper------------1------------------------------------3 Lead---------------1------------------------------------2 Tin------------------1------------------------------------1 Molybdenum-----379---------------------------------87 Nickel--------------0-------------------------------------0 Manganese-------0------------------------------------0 Silver---------------0------------------------------------0 Titanium-----------0------------------------------------1 Potassium---------9------------------------------------4 Boron--------------84------------------------------------51 Silicon-------------15------------------------------------11 Sodium------------25------------------------------------43 Calcium-----------1300----------------------------------2127 Magnesium-------1000---------------------------------157 Phosphorus-------740-----------------------------------713 Zinc------------------840-----------------------------------833 Barium--------------0---------------------------------------0 SUS Viscosity @ 210 F------------------58.7-----------------------57-67 values should be cSt Viscosity @ 100 C--------------------9.85-----------------------9.4-12.4 Flashpoint in F------------------------------395----------------------->385 Fuel %-----------------------------------------0.5-----------------------<2.0 Antifreeze%----------------------------------0.0------------------------0.0 Water %---------------------------------------0.0-----------------------<0.1 Insolubles-------------------------------------0.2------------------------<0.6 TBN---------------------------------------------5.7------------------------<1.0 TAN-----------------------------------------------NOT DONE Particle counts for ISO Oil Cleanliness code 15/14/11' >=2 microns-------436 particles >=5-------------------161 >=10-----------------45 >=15-----------------17 >=25-----------------4 >=50-----------------0 >=100---------------0 The new head gasket did wonders! air filter- AFE Dry Flow
 
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Originally Posted by oliveoil
Looks fine if you want to milk it along. I'm sure a me head gasket would cure the problem.
You hit the nail on the head oliveoil !
 
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Hey, does anyone know what has happened to Trav? I sent 4 fuel injectors to be reconditioned on the 9th and here it is the 22nd. I noticed that Trav has not posted anything since the 15th, very unusual.
 
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Harry this thread is awesome thanks for starting and keeping up with it. Helps me learn a lot about detecting problems using oil analysis which is pretty incredible. I noticed your oil flash point tends to be all over the place sometimes even if you're not having fuel dilution issues, why is that? Or maybe that's normal?
 
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I noticed your oil flash point tends to be all over the place sometimes even if you're not having fuel dilution issues, why is that? Or maybe that's normal?
If it isn't fuel dilution then there are two possible reasons. Flash point is a very subjective test even with the proper ASTM equipment. The second is that Blackstone has proven to be unable to properly determine the value.
 
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Harry this thread is awesome thanks for starting and keeping up with it. Helps me learn a lot about detecting problems using oil analysis which is pretty incredible. I noticed your oil flash point tends to be all over the place sometimes even if you're not having fuel dilution issues, why is that? Or maybe that's normal?
My thoughts on the oil flash point are perhaps the inconsistency of sample taking and how long the car sits before an oil change. If the fuel injectors have any sort of fuel leak, that will effect the flash point. The fuel will be stronger near the top of the oil sump than at the bottom, so sampling at the same point in the oil drain is important. thankyou for those kind words oakaro68
 
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Originally Posted by oakaro68
Harry this thread is awesome thanks for starting and keeping up with it. Helps me learn a lot about detecting problems using oil analysis which is pretty incredible. I noticed your oil flash point tends to be all over the place sometimes even if you're not having fuel dilution issues, why is that? Or maybe that's normal?
My thoughts on the oil flash point are perhaps the inconsistency of sample taking and how long the car sits before an oil change. If the fuel injectors have any sort of fuel leak, that will effect the flash point. The fuel will be stronger near the top of the oil sump than at the bottom, so sampling at the same point in the oil drain is important. thankyou for those kind words oakaro68
Do you run the engine for a while before taking your sample to get everything moving around or no?
 
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I drive about 20 miles to the Honda dealer. If they get to it right away, the leaky fuel injector won't get a chance to get into the oil.
 
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I drive about 20 miles to the Honda dealer. If they get to it right away, the leaky fuel injector won't get a chance to get into the oil.
I wouldn't bet on it. My uncle thought the same thing with a leaky injector on his 4.8 LS engine in his C1500... and ended up with a 4-piece connecting rod to show for it.
 
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Trav sent the original refurbished fuel injectors and I couldn't be happier. The 1.5 liter engine runs very smoothly, Trav did a super job-he is highly recommended.
 
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Originally Posted by harry j
Trav sent the original refurbished fuel injectors and I couldn't be happier. The 1.5 liter engine runs very smoothly, Trav did a super job-he is highly recommended.
Could you tell me the name of Trav's company. I have a set of injectors that need refurbishing. Thanks.
 
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The name of the company is Hurst Injector Service. Phone # 878-516-006 Address 125 East St, Fitchburg, MA 01420 it is 73$ for a set of four shipping included.
 
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Miles on Civic--562,042/904,518 km miles on oil--6,421 Amsoil AZO 0W-30 oil filter Royal Purple 10-2808 Dual Filtermag CT3.2s Dimple Magnetic oil drain plug 5ozs LiquiMoly 41ozs makeup oil Blackstone Labs; Antifreeze continues to wash out, seen in further potassium/sodium reduction, so it looks like the new head gasket is holding up well. Wear metals are mostly consistent with last time, but iron jumped up a bit isn't suggestive of excess steel wear at 14 ppm and it's still close enough to universal averages (9) to avoid a highlight. Maybe a change in use explains it, like more idling this run. Fuel was found at 0.5% which is harmless and didn't thin the oil. TBN was 4.5 and the ISO oil cleanliness Code read 15/14/11, so another clean sample with remaining additive, Nicely done! [code][/code] Aluminum------------------3----------------4 (universal average based on 5,900 OCI) Chromium------------------1----------------1 Iron---------------------------14--------------9 Copper----------------------2----------------3 Lead-------------------------1----------------2 Tin----------------------------0----------------1 Molybdenum---------------285-------------87 Nickel------------------------0-----------------0 Manganese-----------------0-----------------0 Silver-------------------------0-----------------0 Titanium---------------------0-----------------1 Potassium-------------------8----------------4 Boron-------------------------62---------------51 Silicon------------------------9-----------------11 Sodium-----------------------14---------------42 Calcium-----------------------1209-----------2123 Magnesium ------------------920-------------160 Phosphorus------------------708--------------713 Zinc----------------------------795--------------833 Barium-------------------------0-----------------0 SUS Viscosity @ 210F-----61---------------57-67 (values should be) cSt Viscosity @ 100C-------10.50-----------9.4-12.4 Flashpoint in F-----------------375------------->385 Fuel %----------------------------0.5-------------<2.0 Antifreeze %--------------------0-----------------0 Water %--------------------------0-----------------<0.1 Insolubles %---------------------0.3--------------<0.6 TBN---------------------------------4.5------------->1.0 Particle counts for ISO Code 15/14/11; >= 2 microns----329 particles >=5-----------------122 >=10---------------34 >=15---------------13 >=25---------------3 >=50---------------0 >=100-------------0 Note: excess gas found in oil is due to a leaky set of fuel injectors that is now remedied thanks to Trav and the awesome job he did reconditioning them. [Linked Image]
 
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