I happened to see this Mustang GT the other day. I’m Jealous.
Nope. C6z has run 10s, stock. It takes a helluva driver.You mean the 650HP C7 Z06? It can run 10.9X but 505HP C6 Z06 is an 11.5 car but it weighs 300Lbs less than yours.
Nope. C6z has run 10s, stock. It takes a helluva driver.
If you black out the wheels and tail pipes that looks like my sons car.
Like I said...suspension and power delivery are something GM understands. Not so much Ford.I guess I should put that driver in my 13 GT500 then, cause she is only good for 11.2 and has 662HP
Right...right..."It's all in the setup dawg". Even though mine comes with a 100RPM adjustable launch limiter, traction control, track mode and electronically adjustable shocks, Shelby and Ford dropped the ball producing a 3800Lb car that puts 606 on the rollers, yet can only muster a lower 11 passLike I said...suspension and power delivery are something GM understands. Not so much Ford.
Like I said...suspension and power delivery are something GM understands. Not so much Ford.
I have a 2018 GT Premium I bought new a little over two years ago and that thing is scary fast. It's an automatic, though.
The early 2000's FGT performed horrible in 2005-6 vs. GM's product. I sold them. They cost $150K+100K market adjustment. Even without the market adjustment...200% more costly than the 'vette.Clearly they can, look at the Ford GT. The Mustang is the Mustang and the lowly Fox is probably the most popular drag racing platform of all time. The Vet is fast and light, the Mustang is quite a bit heavier, to run the same times at the same power level is going to require them to be the same weight.
Oh, you mean GM's automatic? Yeah? I say GM's, as it's the only auto Ford's put in a car worth a darn, and they needed help from GM to make that happen. Otherwise, the car is always in the shop, or you need a "built" transmission as you note...Automatics in the new mustangs setup right are not slow. My vortech supercharged 87 mustang has a built c-4 and I've won more races then lost
The early 2000's FGT performed horrible in 2005-6 vs. GM's product. I sold them. They cost $150K+100K market adjustment. Even without the market adjustment...200% more costly than the 'vette.
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The current FGT costs how much? It actually performs on par. Amazing car.
Moving along in your post, the "lowly" fox was popular because during its hayday, it was one of the strongest, and most easily modifiable V8's available (87, and especailly 89-92). In 1993, the LT1 F-body came out. Those were faster. They were also a nightmare to work on. I owned one. So much cheaper to go fast in a fox. Then the LS1 F-body came out, and other than the Terminator or heavily modified foxes (no-longer naturally aspirated, or no-longer containing a 302), Ford's late model V8 was forgotten by everyone who could afford to, but highschool kids still loved the 5.0's, and STILL do, as do many older guys. I had one of those, as well as an LS1 fbody, and 70's kids LOVED my 5.0.
That said, the 5.0 couldn't handle for beans. F-bodies killed those cars like crazy, even back in the IROC era, when it came to actually handling.
In short, Ford had an amazing 4.9L powerhouse, and an amazing 281 FI powerhouse in the Terminators, and that's literally all they got right. That's it. Nothing else was awesome or even "good".
Now, they have a good Coyote engine, and as always, a terrible suspension unless you upgrade and get their MRC stuff, which admittedly is good. Probably borrowed from GM
Oh, you mean GM's automatic? Yeah? I say GM's, as it's the only auto Ford's put in a car worth a darn, and they needed help from GM to make that happen. Otherwise, the car is always in the shop, or you need a "built" transmission as you note...
It does with a Ford 9 inch, 4.10s and slicks. Mine weighs 3280 on the local cats scales. It consistently runs 11.80s, when I used to bracket race, but has gone 11.62.I assume that ET has the standard 3 tenths "internet adjusted" time already reflected ...unless that WS has been on a diet, 440RHP aint gonna get 3450LBs to an 11.6
Yeah you certainly are not running very fast on the POS 10 bolt. I have seen some automatics get some life out of them. But a 6 speed. I broke three before I put the 9 inch in the WS6. With a drag pack, it hooks nice, but I have not been to the track with since 2014ish. The 9 inch is packed away So now I roll the 10 bolt with 3.42 because it is nice when you just take it for a cruise. The 9 inch is loud, and normal tires are nice. When the kids are out of the house I might race again. It just rolled 69,000 miles. I really need to do one test and tune at the track for the Caprice.I mean, if we are throwing stones, GM couldn't put a rear-end that would stay together under an F-body forever. T
Yeah you certainly are not running very fast on the POS 10 bolt. I have seen some automatics get some life out of them. But a 6 speed. I broke three before I put the 9 inch in the WS6. With a drag pack, it hooks nice, but I have not been to the track with since 2014ish. The 9 inch is packed away So now I roll the 10 bolt with 3.42 because it is nice when you just take it for a cruise. The 9 inch is loud, and normal tires are nice. When the kids are out of the house I might race again. It just rolled 69,000 miles. I really need to do one test and tune at the track for the Caprice.
I agree, but bought a Mustang because of the horrible visibility from the Camaro and it just doesn't look good. The Mustang IMO is all-around a better car for cheaper.The early 2000's FGT performed horrible in 2005-6 vs. GM's product. I sold them. They cost $150K+100K market adjustment. Even without the market adjustment...200% more costly than the 'vette.
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The current FGT costs how much? It actually performs on par. Amazing car.
Moving along in your post, the "lowly" fox was popular because during its hayday, it was one of the strongest, and most easily modifiable V8's available (87, and especailly 89-92). In 1993, the LT1 F-body came out. Those were faster. They were also a nightmare to work on. I owned one. So much cheaper to go fast in a fox. Then the LS1 F-body came out, and other than the Terminator or heavily modified foxes (no-longer naturally aspirated, or no-longer containing a 302), Ford's late model V8 was forgotten by everyone who could afford to, but highschool kids still loved the 5.0's, and STILL do, as do many older guys. I had one of those, as well as an LS1 fbody, and 70's kids LOVED my 5.0.
That said, the 5.0 couldn't handle for beans. F-bodies killed those cars like crazy, even back in the IROC era, when it came to actually handling.
In short, Ford had an amazing 4.9L powerhouse, and an amazing 281 FI powerhouse in the Terminators, and that's literally all they got right. That's it. Nothing else was awesome or even "good".
Now, they have a good Coyote engine, and as always, a terrible suspension unless you upgrade and get their MRC stuff, which admittedly is good. Probably borrowed from GM
With the MRC, I agree. Without, hard sell for me.I agree, but bought a Mustang because of the horrible visibility from the Camaro and it just doesn't look good. The Mustang IMO is all-around a better car for cheaper.
Seen a 10 bolt make multiple 10.30 passes@130+ with a stalled auto, full weight car. Staged shot. ET Streets.Yeah you certainly are not running very fast on the POS 10 bolt. I have seen some automatics get some life out of them. But a 6 speed. I broke three before I put the 9 inch in the WS6. With a drag pack, it hooks nice, but I have not been to the track with since 2014ish. The 9 inch is packed away So now I roll the 10 bolt with 3.42 because it is nice when you just take it for a cruise. The 9 inch is loud, and normal tires are nice. When the kids are out of the house I might race again. It just rolled 69,000 miles. I really need to do one test and tune at the track for the Caprice.
Blacked out wheels and tailpipes would look awesome on that Mustang in the picture! It also needs window tint. I love the blacked out look.If you black out the wheels and tail pipes that looks like my sons car.