13th and 14th gen Intel processors are defective.

My 12th gen i7 is excellent. 10 cores, 2 performance, 8 efficient. Great for virtualization. Runs cool to the touch.
 
Ws6 said:
I cannot believe this has not been talked about, here. Intel has finally dropped a "fix" code to keep your PC from frying itself. I suggest installing it.



https://community.intel.com/t5/Proc...el-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop/m-p/1622129
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Intel's foundry (factory where intel makes the chips) has lagged behind Taiwan Semi Conductor for years in terms of tech breakthroughs.
AMD doens't make their own chips but partners with Taiwan Semi Conductor.

In my opinion, Intel's design with performance and efficiency cores is a hack.
I prefer AMD's approach, where each core is equal performance as you will get better performance for long running tasks where CPU's are at 100% usage.

With Intel's approach, once you're running 100% cpu usage for a while, the performance cores shut off because they get too hot.

I honestly have lost confidence in Intel. I don't use computers with their processors.
 
Bill7 said:
Intel's foundry (factory where intel makes the chips) has lagged behind Taiwan Semi Conductor for years in terms of tech breakthroughs.
AMD doens't make their own chips but partners with Taiwan Semi Conductor.

In my opinion, Intel's design with performance and efficiency cores is a hack.
I prefer AMD's approach, where each core is equal performance as you will get better performance for long running tasks where CPU's are at 100% usage.

With Intel's approach, once you're running 100% cpu usage for a while, the performance cores shut off because they get too hot.

I honestly have lost confidence in Intel. I don't use computers with their processors.
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Well what is the difference between that and all the ARM processors that have performance and efficient cores? I haven't had a phone in a while that didn't have that setup.

My work laptop with this setup works extremely well, is extremely quiet and the battery lasts longer than my prior i7s. I'm not really seeing a downside here. The scenario you describe is theoretical, and as far as I can tell, I have not experienced it.
 
Brons2 said:
Well what is the difference between that and all the ARM processors that have performance and efficient cores? I haven't had a phone in a while that didn't have that setup.

My work laptop with this setup works extremely well, is extremely quiet and the battery lasts longer than my prior i7s. I'm not really seeing a downside here. The scenario you describe is theoretical, and as far as I can tell, I have not experienced it.
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It would be more an issue with heavy usage, like gaming, when the processor is at 100% CPU usage on all cores for an extended period, the performance cores get hot and are shutdown, leaving you with the lower performance efficiency cores.

With AMD's strategy where all cores are the same, you never run into that issue.
 
Bill7 said:
It would be more an issue with heavy usage, like gaming, when the processor is at 100% CPU usage on all cores for an extended period, the performance cores get hot and are shutdown, leaving you with the lower performance efficiency cores.

With AMD's strategy where all cores are the same, you never run into that issue.
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Gaming doesn't leverage that hard. I see about 5-20% load on PUBG with everything maxed, scaled from 5k down to 1440p, the works. Using a 4080S card. Getting around 140-240fps depending in scenarios to a 240hz OLED 1440p.

BTW, here is my Cinebench before and after 0x129
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Intel has milked their DUV + Imersion lithography for way too long and now they are paying for it. They "hopefully" will be back to match TSMC by 2027 when they finally got their EUV line in mass production. AMD was in the same situation back in the bulldozer era and they did the right thing by spinoff their FABs and then gradually transition to TSMC over time.

Big / small architecture is fine for low duty cycle / battery powered chips. For high duty cycle like those in the cloud, where one customer's idle is another customer's active cycle, you can't do that. Gaming is actually not that CPU intensive as most of the time people are bottlenecked by GPU.
 
Pablo said:
Man I started PC life with 256K (NOT Meg). IF I can afford 64 GBs of memory, I'm in!!
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64 is fine, but unless you're doing a lot of rendering, it's pointless. Of course, I have no clue what you use your PC for so it may be necessary. I run 32gb of 5600ms DDR5 and it's sufficient, more than.
 
Ws6 said:
64 is fine, but unless you're doing a lot of rendering, it's pointless. Of course, I have no clue what you use your PC for so it may be necessary. I run 32gb of 5600ms DDR5 and it's sufficient, more than.
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Call of Duty kept crashing on mine with 32gb. Upgraded to 64gb and works flawlessly now. Not pointless at all.
 
Ws6 said:
64 is fine, but unless you're doing a lot of rendering, it's pointless. Of course, I have no clue what you use your PC for so it may be necessary. I run 32gb of 5600ms DDR5 and it's sufficient, more than.
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People here write this, but actually I find when doing much anything 64 GB is faster than 32. Even opening large photos or booting up GIMP. At the time last year, the extra memory was a song, well worth the price when I bought my new MB
 
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