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#920801 - 07/06/07 07:09 PM Re: Toyota Factory Fill, 1100 miles, 2007 Toyota Y [Re: VeeDubb]
Steve S Offline


Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 18449
Loc: East of IGO
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I dunno what the correct answer is with regard to changing out the factory fill, but this is clearly a special oil (look at the moly!) for break in. When you replace it with an off the shelf oil while the engine is still breaking in, are there any downsides? I wish there was a study on this somewhere.

In any case, I waited until 5k to replace the factory fill in my Passat. My 1.8T turbo engine is very hard on oil and many of these engines sludge. I currently have 70k miles, no oil consumption and extremely low wear in a recent UOA. If keeping the factory fill in too long has dire consequences, it certainly didn't show up in my engine. I've kept the factory fill in my 07 Sienna 3.5 V6. It's at 4100 miles right now and I'm not too worried about it.


I am a change it early type myself, usually the most wear/dirt is the first few thousand miles .Does it make a difference I really can't say but for the cost of an oil change why not . Some people use syn oil when not required or needed and change it at 4,000 miles so I do an extra oil change on my new vehicles.
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#920802 - 07/06/07 07:49 PM Re: Toyota Factory Fill, 1100 miles, 2007 Toyota Y [Re: Steve S]
Lonnie Offline


Registered: 10/17/06
Posts: 2304
Loc: Los Angles, CA
I dumped the factory fill at just under 100 miles in my V8 4Runner. Made me feel good.

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#920803 - 07/08/07 12:44 AM Re: Toyota Factory Fill, 1100 miles, 2007 Toyota Y [Re: Lonnie]
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Registered: 01/25/07
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I dumped the factory fill on my 2007 Toyota Tundra 5.7L V-8 at 2,600 miles. Made me feel good too. Have a sample of it waiting to go to Blackstone whenever my pre-paid sample kits show up.

later,
b
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#920804 - 07/08/07 10:23 PM Re: Toyota Factory Fill, 1100 miles, 2007 Toyota Y [Re: kd5byb]
unDummy Offline


Registered: 02/01/03
Posts: 8756
Loc: RI
No, I don't see any special oil there. Anyone ever assemble an engine? What you're seeing is all the assembly lube/grease, cutting oils used during manufacturing, storage oils used to ship parts from one location to another.......along with various component coatings and parts infiltrations, and gasket/seal shedding, that'll throw off the factory fill UOA along with a couple future UOAs.

The only thing in that UOA that worried me is the TBN. Why is it so low? Smart move to change out early. No way would it make 5k miles (or whatever the owners manual claims).

When was the vehicle manufactured? when did you buy it? how many miles on it? With TBN low, I would think oil already had several months life. Toss in a bunch of dealer short trips(from one lot's parking spot to another), might explain oil condition.

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#920805 - 07/08/07 11:57 PM Re: Toyota Factory Fill, 1100 miles, 2007 Toyota Yaris [Re: TR3-2001SE]
Titan Offline


Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 2329
Loc: Morgan, UT
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This is not bad for a new car but the reason I change new cars at 1000 miles.




You change to a new car every 1000 miles? WOW!
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#920806 - 07/09/07 05:22 AM Re: Toyota Factory Fill, 1100 miles, 2007 Toyota Y [Re: unDummy]
craigq Offline


Registered: 05/21/05
Posts: 350
Loc: ON, CA
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No, I don't see any special oil there... Anyone ever assemble an engine?

The only thing in that UOA that worried me is the TBN. Why is it so low? Smart move to change out early. No way would it make 5k miles (or whatever the owners manual claims).

When was the vehicle manufactured? when did you buy it? how many miles on it? With TBN low, I would think oil already had several months life. Toss in a bunch of dealer short trips(from one lot's parking spot to another), might explain oil condition.




Thanks for the replies guys

Assembled engines a couple of times, it's quite fun (mind you if I did it for a living I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much). From the assembly lube/grease and whatnot I'm not surprised with the elemental analysis results.

Vehicle was manufactured March 2007, it was bought right at the beginning of May 2007. Very low single digit KM's on it, it had just arrived on the lot and still had the funky shipping stickers and cheesy cardboard protectors on the hubcaps when we saw it

You guys know way more about these results than I do, the low TBN is likely what you said, short trips and maybe one test drive to make sure everything's working as it should...

Recently had first tank over 50 IMP MPG (54.6, about 45.4 US MPG) and liking the car so far
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