Recent Topics
Brand New 2012 Scag Tiger Cat ?
by lawnguy
9 minutes 43 seconds ago
Kawasaki reveals most powerful motorcycle ever !
by FastGame
11 minutes 34 seconds ago
Dr Dons radio repair-recommended
by Russell
23 minutes 30 seconds ago
1989 Chevy 5.7 need new catalytic to pass CA smog
by zanzabar
26 minutes 56 seconds ago
Heat pump for winter heating
by datech
32 minutes 4 seconds ago
13 Fusion 1.6L Ecoboost, Amsoil SS 5w20, 9.7/28.5k
by jeff7181
48 minutes 54 seconds ago
Smoke when stepping hard on gas after coasting
by Dustained
Today at 11:50 AM
Tech question for laptop experts
by LoneRanger
Today at 11:07 AM
Changing brake fluid, clutch also?
by Darwin1138
Today at 10:20 AM
Low impedance US made multimeter
by JHZR2
Today at 09:43 AM
OnStar - Worthwhile?
by Dave Sherman
Today at 09:12 AM
Honda Oil Life - how works?
by sasilverbullet
Today at 09:02 AM
Newest Members
Hemingway, kcp, tgrudzin, jeff7181, JoshsCummins
51456 Registered Users
Who's Online
105 registered (AdRock, aquariuscsm, 123Saab, 97tbird, 11 invisible), 1887 Guests and 169 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51456 Members
64 Forums
220024 Topics
3474072 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Topic Options
#892460 - 05/03/07 04:56 AM How to adjust antifreeze pH?
jzmtl Offline


Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 9
Loc: Montreal
What chemical do I use to increase pH of antifreeze? Is sodium hydroxide okay? I tried google but no one is saying what to do besides get a cooling system flush.

Top
#892461 - 05/03/07 06:35 AM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: jzmtl]
George7941 Offline


Registered: 05/10/05
Posts: 1483
Loc: Toronto, Canada
I don't think anybody uses a chemical to increase the pH of coolant. If your coolant is that acidic it is time to replace it anyway. There are other additives in coolant that will be depleted by the time coolant becomes acidic.
_________________________
2006 GMC Sierra 4.3l, NV3500,G80 locker rear, Formula Shell Synthetic 5W30, Wix 51036, Dexcool.
1987 BMW R80

Staying out of the right lane a lot.

Top
#892462 - 05/03/07 06:50 AM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: George7941]
jzmtl Offline


Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 9
Loc: Montreal
That's the thing, the coolant is new. From what I read pure prestone is 10.5, but afte mixing with water it's down to 9.

From description of coolant flush, they say after adjust coolant/water ratio, they use a pH concentrated coolant to adjust pH. So they must use some sort of base to get it right, but no one is saying what.

Top
#892463 - 05/03/07 07:48 AM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: jzmtl]
onion Offline


Registered: 02/04/07
Posts: 2097
Loc: kansastan
Sodium hydroxide is some pretty strong stuff... I'd be cautious about it. Sodium bicarbonate works fine for aquariums...

What PH are you looking for? Why?
_________________________
The invisible and the imaginary look exactly the same.

Top
#892464 - 05/03/07 07:08 PM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: onion]
jzmtl Offline


Registered: 03/24/07
Posts: 9
Loc: Montreal
from around 9 to 10.5, because that seems to be the optimal pH for antifreeze.

Top
#892465 - 05/03/07 07:13 PM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: jzmtl]
benjamming Offline


Registered: 01/03/04
Posts: 5674
Loc: northern Alabama
But you say that you have a pH of 9 right now & are targeting 9-10.5. Tell us again why you are wanting to adjust the pH.

Top
#892466 - 05/03/07 09:20 PM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: benjamming]
John K Offline


Registered: 09/06/03
Posts: 943
Loc: Loveland, Ohio
Sodium bicarbonate will typically raise the pH to less than 8.5. It 'sounds'(?) like you are assuming that 10.5 is the ideal pH because that is the pH of concentrated antifreeze. I think that a pH of 9 should be fine. Depending on what type of water you mixed with the antifreeze you run the risk of elevating the pH too high using sodium hydroxide. Higher pH is good for iron/steel, not sure of optimum for aluminum, but if you have any copper in the system raising the pH would not be a good idea.

Top
#892467 - 05/03/07 09:28 PM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: John K]
John K Offline


Registered: 09/06/03
Posts: 943
Loc: Loveland, Ohio
Well, I did a search and found an MSDS for Castrol antifreeze that listed the pH as 10.5-11.0 for 50% antifreeze. If that is what your pH should be and it is at 9.0, it probably means inadequate rinsing of an acid cleaner or dilution with some hard water??? If there are contaminants in the coolant then I think you'd be better off replacing the antifreeze, rinsing, and using distilled water to dilute the new stuff with.

Top
#892468 - 05/03/07 11:59 PM Re: How to adjust antifreeze pH? [Re: John K]
1sttruck Offline


Registered: 03/20/04
Posts: 4378
Loc: Camas, WA
I like using 50% coolant as a flush, and just buy twice as much when changing it. One of the reasons is to let the flush have first crack at dealing with remaining chemical issues in the system, so that the coolant intended to remain in the system starts off as designed, with the best shot at coolant life. Coolant isn't that expensive considering how long it remains in service, compared to engines with corroded, leaky freeze plugs and other such things from poorly maintained cooling systems (two friends have had this problem).

Top