Recent Topics
Mix my own dexos1??
by wolf_06
23 minutes 32 seconds ago
Avoid FedEx
by Touring5
24 minutes 55 seconds ago
New vehicle protocol
by Mfrank84
56 minutes 43 seconds ago
Four Baldwin BT223 oil filters
by NormanBuntz
57 minutes 17 seconds ago
UOA: 02 WRX 5MT, 40K - Valvoline "cocktail" 80w90
by Buffman
Today at 08:37 AM
Help me select the correct Dex/Merc fluid.
by reemoe2
Today at 08:03 AM
IIHS crash testing on small cars
by Hokiefyd
Today at 07:58 AM
Havoline Conventional 5w20, thoughts?
by wemay
Today at 07:35 AM
Powerful car crusher..
by pbm
Today at 07:18 AM
Air / oil separator. . . .
by Robster
Today at 07:17 AM
Undersized Ford 4.6 filters
by gfh77665
Today at 07:16 AM
EricTheCarGuy @ Valvoline, 35min video about oil.
by HKPolice
Today at 06:19 AM
Newest Members
StephenSanchez, Tony05, sacamano, handy, amber
50800 Registered Users
Who's Online
101 registered (Bandito440, 1 FMF, 90crvtec, 123Saab, 97tbird, 5 invisible), 1861 Guests and 226 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
50800 Members
64 Forums
217034 Topics
3417125 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Topic Options
#881590 - 04/15/07 09:04 PM Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D?
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 6195
Loc: Illinois
I'm getting tired of paying John Deere's prices for their Low Viscosity Hy-Gard (aka Hy-Tran) fluid, otherwise known as "J20D".

Any one know of a substitute for this, from someone like Shell or Mystik?
_________________________

President of the Illinois chapter of 'Motorcyclists for Global Warming'.

Top
#881591 - 04/15/07 11:37 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
Don Stefanik Offline


Registered: 12/09/03
Posts: 573
Loc: Forest On
What other suppliers do you use.
Any of the major oil companies ( Shell, Exxon, etc) will have generic hydraulic/transmission fluids.
_________________________
LIVE LONG & PROSPER.

Top
#881592 - 04/16/07 02:40 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Don Stefanik]
Steve S Offline


Registered: 01/20/03
Posts: 18449
Loc: East of IGO
Amsoil,Chevron,Shell,Scgaeffers,Valvoline.etc.
_________________________
Why do people post I want the best for my car,,, When there isn't anything that is the best on the car to begin with.

Top
#881593 - 04/16/07 06:10 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Steve S]
salesrep Offline


Registered: 08/22/03
Posts: 3339
Loc: lllinois
Big R's, Farm fleet, rural king, most NAPA's in Central Il all carry a low priced universal tractor fluid that meets the jd specs.
_________________________
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."

Edward Abbey


Top
#881594 - 04/17/07 12:21 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: salesrep]
mrsilv04 Offline


Registered: 12/08/06
Posts: 6195
Loc: Illinois
Just to clarify...

All of these manufacturers/stores have the equivalent of *low-viscosity* Hy-Gard?

I'm not referring to the regular stuff...

If they all carry the equivalent of los-vis Hy-Gard, then what rock have I been under???


Edited by mrsilv04 (04/17/07 12:21 AM)
_________________________

President of the Illinois chapter of 'Motorcyclists for Global Warming'.

Top
#881595 - 04/17/07 12:35 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
salesrep Offline


Registered: 08/22/03
Posts: 3339
Loc: lllinois
I misread. They very well may not have a low vis equiv.
I would think the local jobber would carry an equiv.
_________________________
"A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government."

Edward Abbey


Top
#881596 - 04/18/07 03:12 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
doitmyself Offline


Registered: 06/03/02
Posts: 4668
Loc: MI
Citgo has Lo-Temp Trans Gard that meets the J20D spec.. Not sure if there is a Mystic(Citgo) equivalent.

Amsoil and Chevron have single products that meet BOTH the C and D rating. Top notch products, but initial cost probably won't be less.

Top
#881597 - 05/01/07 06:35 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: doitmyself]
Wrehch Offline


Registered: 12/12/06
Posts: 208
Loc: PA
Texas Refinery Corp's Special Low Temp Universal Torque Fluid meets the JD J20D spec. It has a -50 deg pour point so low temp operation shouldn't be a problem.

Top
#881598 - 09/18/07 01:17 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Wrehch]
marco246 Offline


Registered: 05/07/05
Posts: 332
Loc: Hawaii
Chevron "Synthetic All-Weather THF" meets JD J20C and J20D specs. Viscosity at 40*C/100*C is 44.7/9.5 cSt.

Chevron "THF W" meets J20D only. Viscosity at 40*C/100*C is 34.4/7.3 cSt.
_________________________
10 Honda Insight PP 0W-20
06 N Frontier ChevSupr 30
64 Cobra 289 Delo 15W-40
04 JD 4610 Delo 15W-40
07 JD 2305 Delo 10W-30

Top
#881599 - 10/21/07 11:38 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: marco246]
ericgl Offline


Registered: 03/09/05
Posts: 85
Loc: Houston
Shell's product is Donax TDL.

Top
#1024108 - 11/07/07 10:42 AM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
RWEST Offline


Registered: 10/25/07
Posts: 1373
Loc: Somerset County, PA
 Quote:
I'm getting tired of paying John Deere's prices for their Low Viscosity Hy-Gard

How much are they charging for it mrsilv04? Reason I ask is a guy at the TractorByNet forum said he paid some amazing amount, like $10/qt or something, and I just got some from my local J-D guy on Saturday for $12/gal for my X595. It's definitely J20D "Low-Vis/HyGard".
_________________________
"even if you're paranoid, they can still be following you" hide

"live so the preacher doesn't have to lie at your funeral" wink



Top
#1118399 - 03/30/08 09:27 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: RWEST]
Neil Womack Offline


Registered: 06/09/02
Posts: 718
Loc: Central Texas
Im curretly using Schaeffers Simplex in my 790. Works fine however not low vis. I did't I need low vis in Texas summer only use.
_________________________
03 Golf TDI
10 Honda Civic
07 GMC 2500 6.0 gas

Top
#1118453 - 03/30/08 11:10 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: Neil Womack]
TurboLuver Offline


Registered: 04/12/05
Posts: 1473
Loc: SW Ohio
I am using Amsoil Synthetic Tractor Hydraulic/Transmission Oil
SAE 5W-30 (ATH) in my JD lawn tractor. It meets the specs for the J20D fluid.

Top
#2161528 - 02/04/11 11:12 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
Down_South Offline


Registered: 06/05/09
Posts: 37
Loc: NC
According to the Official John Deere service manual for Lawn Tractors LX255,LX266,LX277,LX2 (TM1754), You Can use a SAE 5W or 10W30 Oil (Synthetic or Mineral) or John Deere HY-GARDô J20C Oil. Its your choice. I had some HY-GARDô on the shelf in the garage that meets the J20D spec, but if I run out, its nice to know that I can use an SAE motor oil. I'd put a copy of the PDF on here if it was legal, but unfortunately I had to pay money to John Deere for it and I don't want to be sued for copyright stuff.
_________________________
\/alvoline SynPower

Top
#2169388 - 02/12/11 06:57 PM Re: Substitute for John Deere Hy-Gard J20D? [Re: mrsilv04]
onion Offline


Registered: 02/04/07
Posts: 2097
Loc: kansastan
What's the application here?

For what it's worth, Deere does specify engine oil to be used as hydraulic fluid in quite a few applications- including machines that are far more expensive and powerful than lawn tractors. They'll often have a chart in the operator's manual showing a variety of engine oil viscosities and either standard or low-vis hyguard, depending on temperature range.

Case also uses engine oil in some of their skidsteer hydraulic systems. But they have an additional additive to put in with the 10w30.
_________________________
The invisible and the imaginary look exactly the same.

Top