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#872947 - 04/04/07 07:01 AM When did plastic oil bottles first come out?
Merkava_4 Offline

Registered: 01/30/07
Posts: 12641
Loc: Clovis, CA
All this talk recently about vintage oils has got me thinking: "When did plastic oil bottles first come out anyway?" I've been on this Earth since shortly after the Egyptian Pyramids were built, so I can still remember the old cardboard oil cans with the tin tops.

#872948 - 04/04/07 07:18 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Merkava_4]
eddiehaskell Offline

Registered: 03/16/07
Posts: 102
Loc: NC
What! There was a time before plastic :eek:

#872949 - 04/04/07 07:26 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Merkava_4]
ewetho Offline

Registered: 05/05/06
Posts: 1304
Loc: Kankakee, IL
Well in High School for me in the Mid-Late 80's I still remember cardboard and tin oil cans. But when I bought my first car in 90 Never saw one for sale again. (OK little white lie did find one or two dusty old cans here and their in old auto parts stores up to about 93. But even the late 80's they were becoming obsolete. The first ones can remember were the early 80's Pennzoil bright yellow bottles were already out when Rick Mears one Indy in a Pennzoil car that was 84..
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#872950 - 04/04/07 07:30 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: ewetho]
chiefsfan Offline

Registered: 04/05/03
Posts: 73
Loc: Springfield, MO
I think it was 1985. You could get Quaker State in plastic first, if memory serves.

#872951 - 04/04/07 07:41 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: chiefsfan]
aquariuscsm Offline

Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 12441
Loc: South Texas,USA
I saw a pic of a 1984 Mobil 1 ad where they were using the metal cans. Made me realize how long ago the 80s really were!!!!!!!
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#872952 - 04/04/07 07:46 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: aquariuscsm]
Cutehumor Offline

Registered: 12/10/02
Posts: 9328
Loc: USA
always saw plastic oil bottles. I barely remember when they used paper bags at the grocery store. they must have stopped that when in the early 90's when I was middle school
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#872953 - 04/04/07 08:02 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Cutehumor]
Buffman Offline

Registered: 08/08/05
Posts: 1225
Loc: SW Michigan
I had a can of oil here at the house that my dad found in the back of the oil cabinet, that was from the late 60s. Was in the old cardboard and tin can. It was some pure synthetic 30,000 Mile oil..
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#872954 - 04/04/07 08:12 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Cutehumor]
cos Offline

Registered: 11/21/04
Posts: 1149
Loc: Metro Detroit
Ya, had to be mid 80's. Do you remember the cases of oil back then? Yep - 24 qts to the case. I knew back then that folks simply didn't want that much oil at one time - too heavy and too expensive. Back then I used to wait for Castrol GTX to go on sale for 99 cents/qt! It was expensive back then!!!
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#872955 - 04/04/07 08:13 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Buffman]
Johnny Offline

Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 14013
Loc: Retired | Wausau, WI
Pennzoil came out with the plastic bottle in 1984. It was round with a short neck on it. Quaker State followed but theirs had the neat vent neck on it. Fighting for shelf space in retail stores, Pennzoil came out with the square bottle in 1986 which looked close to what it is today. Every year at the national meetings they always had a theme, and the theme in 1986 was "The Challenge of Change". They opened the meeting by unveiling this 50' tall blow up bottle. You could put twice as many square bottles on the same shelf space as you could the round ones. Also something new with the square bottle was the 12 quart case. Metal cans, cardboard cans, and round bottles use to come in 24 quart cases.

#872956 - 04/04/07 09:14 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Johnny]
dwendt44 Offline

Registered: 05/17/06
Posts: 3571
Loc: Central Wisconsin
The first 'square' bottle had the neck/cap in the center.
Now, most of them have the neck/cap offset for easier pouring.

I can remember all metal oil cans. 1 quart and 4 quart sizes. Push in spout always leaked.
4 quart was for service station use mainly.
Like the cardboard can, they had the SAE weight stamped into the top metal.
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#872957 - 04/04/07 10:17 AM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Merkava_4]
moribundman Offline

Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 23591

"When did plastic oil bottles first come out anyway?"

Well, I can't remember anything but plastic bottles. I definitely remember frog-green plastic BP oil bottles from the very early '80s. We always kept one in the trunk of our Austin.

#872958 - 04/04/07 02:42 PM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: moribundman]
Brett Miller Offline

Registered: 09/09/03
Posts: 2636
Loc: Arizona
I remember those Pennzoil bottles. They were the first case of oil I ever bought.

#872959 - 04/04/07 04:52 PM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Brett Miller]
Kestas Offline

Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 11188
Loc: The Motor City
I miss the cardboard cans. Even before recycling became popular I used to incinerate the empty cans. Can't do that with the plastic now -- too nasty!

I still keep the can opener in my toolbox as a reminder.
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#872960 - 04/04/07 05:10 PM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: Kestas]
ekpolk Offline
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Registered: 04/05/04
Posts: 8881
Loc: Pensacola FL
Yeah, I agree that the trend took off in the mid-80s and was pretty much done by 1990. Reference points for me: I checked into MCB Quantico as a new 2ndLt in May 1983 and at that time, all the oil in the base exchange (I was haunting oil aisles even back then...) was the old fashioned cans. I remember trying to sort out QS, QS Deluxe, and QS Supreme. Three years later, after completing all of flight training, I checked into MCAS Cherry Point (1986). By that time, the oil at the exchange was in plastic bottles. All the M1 was in the round bottles that look sort of like what Redline uses today. There might have been some can brands left, a few, but I don't recall clearly, but M1 (which I was by then using) was for sure in plastic.
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#872961 - 04/04/07 05:21 PM Re: When did plastic oil bottles first come out? [Re: ekpolk]
addyguy Offline

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 13789
Loc: Canada
What about Kendall? Didn't they come out with the 'fun-l-fil' plastic bottles in 1978? That would pre-date the 1984 date of Pennzoil by six years! Have a look:
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