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#597349 - 10/05/04 12:43 AM Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Lumberg Offline


Registered: 05/18/04
Posts: 478
Loc: Washington DC area
Which one out of these three would you use in your garage for making things slide against each other better (nuts & bolt threads , etc)?

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#597350 - 10/05/04 03:38 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
tom slick Offline


Registered: 05/26/03
Posts: 8611
Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
none of them are great lubricants if that's what you are asking. PBlaster will actually dry up after a couple of days.

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#597351 - 10/05/04 04:42 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Seth_TJ Offline


Registered: 09/26/02
Posts: 250
Loc: WV
quote:
Originally posted by Lumberg:
Which one out of these three would you use in your garage for making things slide against each other better (nuts & bolt threads , etc)?

"making things slide better" ok well that'd be a lubricant and none of those. Aerokroil would be a better choice it seems to have a little bit of lube in it. If it is on a bolt I use antiseize or grease. You must adjust torque accordingly though or risk braking the bolt or nut off.

As for anything else it sort of depends on the what it is. I've used various grease, Mobil 1 spray lube, Aerokroil, lithium grease, silicone, chain, pivot/pin spray lube, etc

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#597352 - 10/05/04 05:05 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Lumberg Offline


Registered: 05/18/04
Posts: 478
Loc: Washington DC area
Let's say those were your only choices (well Advance Auto Parts Multi=Purpose Lubricant (MPL and WD-40 as well) and you needed something to tide you over until you ordered some Schaffers Penetro stuff.

as far as what I want it for I should haev been more specific: making things slide that aren't currently disposed to slide (like things that are siezed and/or rusted)

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#597353 - 10/05/04 05:14 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Jakebrake Offline


Registered: 09/10/02
Posts: 280
Loc: Fallon, Nevada
quote:
Originally posted by Lumberg:
(like things that are siezed and/or rusted)

Some cautious application of heat (propane torch)and just about any penetrating lubricant. It might also be beneficial to set up some vibration via carefull appliction of a hammer blow.

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#597354 - 10/06/04 02:32 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
kev99sl Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 302
Loc: Chicago
quote:
Originally posted by Jakebrake:
quote:
Originally posted by Lumberg:
(like things that are siezed and/or rusted)

Some cautious application of heat (propane torch)and just about any penetrating lubricant. It might also be beneficial to set up some vibration via carefull appliction of a hammer blow.
Heat it up really good with aforementioned torch, and then touch a candle to the bolt: the wax will penetrate between the bolt and nut and act as a lubricant. Also, turning the nut the other way (tightening) a little bit right before attempting to loosen it after doing this often helps.

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#597355 - 10/06/04 06:45 PM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46713
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
Use a good antiseize.

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#597356 - 05/11/05 06:40 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
[RT] ProjUltraZ Offline


Registered: 12/16/04
Posts: 1053
Loc: Honolulu, HI
but not brake caliper bolts. i put a little anti-seize on em the first time i did brakes...1 caliper bolt backed out and fell off.

now i use loc-tite on those lol

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#597357 - 05/11/05 07:02 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
dkcase Offline


Registered: 10/20/02
Posts: 728
Loc: Suburban St. Louis
quote:
Originally posted by [RT] ProjUltraZ:
but not brake caliper bolts. i put a little anti-seize on em the first time i did brakes...1 caliper bolt backed out and fell off.

now i use loc-tite on those lol

Same thing happened here. Jeep Liberty. I don't remember if I used anti-sieze. I probably did because that would be usual.
One bolt fell out, and brakes began to make noise. Small bolt on the caliper slide, not a large fastener that takes much force.
Now the four of them are in with LocTite.

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#597358 - 05/13/05 08:13 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
1maniac Offline


Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 565
Loc: Pittsburgh PA
On those caliper bolts antyhing will be easier to loosen than rust/corrosion. Be it LokTite or antiseize. Make sure your torque 'em correctly!

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#597359 - 05/13/05 06:32 PM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Pablo Offline


Registered: 10/28/02
Posts: 46713
Loc: Duvall WA - Pacific NW USA
I WAS not suggesting using anti-seize on any critical torque brake fastener requiring Loc-Tite.

quote:
Which one out of these three (see thread title) would you use in your garage for making things slide against each other better (nuts & bolt threads , etc)?
As stated NONE is any much of a lube and even stinkin' WD-40 (useless as a penetrant) will be a better "lube".

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#597360 - 05/17/05 05:22 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
1sttruck Offline


Registered: 03/20/04
Posts: 4378
Loc: Camas, WA
For a lube I've been using either Mobil 1 75W-90 or Mobil 1 grease, both of which work much better than the dino grease or one of a half a dozen other oil type lubes that I've used over the years. I still buy WD40 by the gallon for gentle cleaning/short term protection; shivels, lawn mower, hand tools, saws, etc.

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#597361 - 06/01/05 08:40 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Stinky Peterson Offline



Registered: 05/15/03
Posts: 383
Loc: Bismarck, North Dakota
The best penetrating oil I've found is a product called Rust Reaper. I've never had much luck with ones I've tried but this stuff works very well.

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#597362 - 06/01/05 05:37 PM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Kestas Offline



Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 10870
Loc: The Motor City
quote:
Originally posted by kev99sl:
Heat it up really good with aforementioned torch, and then touch a candle to the bolt: the wax will penetrate between the bolt and nut and act as a lubricant...

I've been using my torch for the tough rusted bolts for 25 years. I just recently used the candle wax trick and it really does work! It's now part of my tool kit.

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#597363 - 06/27/05 07:24 AM Re: Liquid Wrench vs. PB Blaster vs. Seafoam Deep Creep
Ken2 Offline


Registered: 12/02/02
Posts: 6261
Loc: Washington St.
Schaeffer's Penetro 90 is the best penetrating oil plus an extreme pressure lube. Liquid Wrench is old fashioned, moderately effective as a penetrant, and cheap. B'laster PB, Kroil, and DeepCreep are better penetrants. All are better than WD-40. Penetro 90 is the only decent lube of the bunch.

I've spent 35 years working on rusted parts on steamships. I've used beeswax to penetrate threads that were too hot for penetrating oil, and used the gas axe many, many times. If the materials are different, heating then cold shocking with cold water sometimes works, but also removes the temper.

To get things to slide you need lube. It all depends on conditions. Antisieze is terrible for things that must keep moving, great for things that will be stationare until you take them apart.


Ken

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