Recent Topics
A Question about Electrical Breakers and Amps
by threeputtpar
35 minutes 26 seconds ago
Meijer 4/20/14 - 4/26/14 motor oil
by GreenFocus
Today at 08:48 AM
Study: Fuels from corn waste not better than gas
by hatt
Today at 08:47 AM
nauseousness,dry heaves in mornings.......
by daves66nova
Today at 08:35 AM
Drain question
by supton
Today at 08:01 AM
Remote shutdown options in Win7?
by Quattro Pete
Today at 07:36 AM
Easter messing about
by Shannow
Today at 06:54 AM
9K OCI on dino oil?
by Spetz
Today at 06:51 AM
DSG Transmission
by Dually
Today at 06:21 AM
Wal-Mart concept truck...
by mattwithcats
Today at 04:09 AM
Natural Look vs Glassy Look - Which do you prefer?
by The Critic
Today at 03:12 AM
Car Leasing
by bobbob
Today at 12:22 AM
Newest Members
Rond310, corollasienna, Truck25Engine, budzman, adtslo
49651 Registered Users
Who's Online
106 registered (4Kings, 01_celica_gt, 1 FMF, 2004tdigls, 72te27, 7 invisible), 1945 Guests and 186 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
49651 Members
64 Forums
212208 Topics
3326107 Posts

Max Online: 2605 @ 04/19/14 12:41 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
Topic Options
#5157 - 12/10/02 07:53 AM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
mkosem Offline


Registered: 11/13/02
Posts: 770
Loc: OH, US
well, group I or not, is it a good oil? should I not use it?

--Matt

Top
#5158 - 12/10/02 07:55 AM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 13640
Loc: Midwest
I think Mobil Drive Clean in dino or the blend would be fine for 3-5 k drain intervals.

Mobil 1 0W40 is OK as well for longer drain intervals.

[ December 10, 2002, 11:57 PM: Message edited by: MolaKule ]

Top
#5159 - 12/10/02 08:07 AM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
mkosem Offline


Registered: 11/13/02
Posts: 770
Loc: OH, US
nonono, my plan is this:

Drive Clean 5w30 for 1,000 miles
Mobil1 0w40 from that point on for 3-5k intervals

--Matt

Top
#5160 - 12/10/02 08:10 AM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
MolaKule Offline


Registered: 06/05/02
Posts: 13640
Loc: Midwest
OOOOOK! [Cheers!]

Top
#5161 - 12/10/02 08:11 AM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
mkosem Offline


Registered: 11/13/02
Posts: 770
Loc: OH, US
hehe, sound like a plan?

--Matt

Top
#5162 - 12/10/02 03:44 PM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
G-MAN Offline


Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8763
Loc: SC
quote:
Originally posted by MolaKule:
No, you can take Group I base oils with an advanced additive package and meet any EO spec.

Not from what I've read in the lubricant publications--unless by "additive package" you mean some Group IV or Group V base oil.

Top
#5163 - 12/10/02 03:56 PM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
quote:
Originally posted by XHVI:
quote:
Originally posted by MolaKule:
No, you can take Group I base oils with an advanced additive package and meet any EO spec.

Not from what I've read in the lubricant publications--unless by "additive package" you mean some Group IV or Group V base oil.
Schaeffers mineral and blends use a group I not a group II.

Many fail to understand, These groups are not #'d in respect to quality which appears many think that if it's group II, it' better than group I. Not true.

Top
#5164 - 12/10/02 04:05 PM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
G-MAN Offline


Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8763
Loc: SC
quote:
Originally posted by BOBISTHEOILGUY:
[QUOTE]Schaeffers mineral and blends use a group I not a group II.

Many fail to understand, These groups are not #'d in respect to quality which appears many think that if it's group II, it' better than group I. Not true.

Bob, Schaeffer's own spec sheets for the 7000 5w30 and Micron Moly 5w30 say they use Group II and Group II+, and the wording of the 10w30 spec sheet ("hydroconverted") would indicate a Group II is used in that blend as well.

The saturate and aromatic specs for a Group II base oil do indicate that it is "better" than a Group I.

Top
#5165 - 12/10/02 04:08 PM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
BOBISTHEOILGUY Offline


Registered: 05/27/02
Posts: 1874
Loc: Ocala, Florida
Sorry, the 5w30 blend is the exception with schaeffers, all the rest are group I according to our chief chemist/cls.

As for the Sat's in schaeffers case, they use >90 unlike the standard group I of =<90. That is a difference between schaeffers group I and standard group I.

As for group II being better that is only correct in certain applications. But also in certain applicatins group I is better than group II.

[ December 11, 2002, 08:12 AM: Message edited by: BOBISTHEOILGUY ]

Top
#5166 - 12/10/02 04:49 PM Re: I've come to a fork in the road.
G-MAN Offline


Registered: 11/15/02
Posts: 8763
Loc: SC
quote:
Originally posted by BOBISTHEOILGUY:
Sorry, the 5w30 blend is the exception with schaeffers, all the rest are group I according to our chief chemist/cls.

That sort of fits in with the point I was making above that for 5wXX oils, a Group II or Group II+ is needed in order to meet the GF-3 specs. (Unless it's a syn blend, in which case Group I and Group IV can easily meet the specs if enough Group IV is added.)

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2