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#485779 - 04/18/05 01:41 AM 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
drive it forever Offline


Registered: 09/03/04
Posts: 843
Loc: Grove City, OH
Took back the junk weed-eater 2-cycle trimmer to wal-mart. Went to lowes and bought a troybilt 4-stroke trimmer. Except for it being a tad heavy, it starts and runs excellent. It holds a whopping "3.4" ounces of oil, and the filler hole doubles as the oil drain. Kinda weird, I have a 2-stroke lawnboy mower, and a 4-stroke string trimmer!

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#485780 - 04/18/05 04:40 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 13081
Loc: North Carolina
Glad to hear you're happy! What engine does that Troybilt use? I didn't know there was another common 4-stoke trimmer out there besides Honda (or the "semi" 4-strokes mentioned in the other thread).

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#485781 - 04/18/05 06:33 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
drive it forever Offline


Registered: 09/03/04
Posts: 843
Loc: Grove City, OH
It doesent state the manufacture on it. For being a little under $200.00, I would bet its the new briggs&stratton fource engine. My guess is they do this because they want the owners to be confused, and it might make them more prone to buy geniune replacement parts through their channels?

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#485782 - 04/18/05 05:03 PM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
MADMIKE Offline


Registered: 02/14/05
Posts: 648
Loc: RHODE ISLAND
Check out Consumer Reports 6/04 issue for a complete test of string trimmers--very good summary. (I bought a Troy-Bilt TB25CS after reading their test--it was rated a "best buy"--haven't used it yet though)

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#485783 - 04/19/05 05:51 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
titanium10k Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 26
Loc: Florida
i always wondered with those fourstroke weedeaters can u edge with by turning it sideways? does is effect lubrication???

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#485784 - 04/20/05 09:36 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 13081
Loc: North Carolina
Yes and no. You can turn them sideways and it will not affect lubrication. Most of those small 4-strokes basically atomize the oil, and it's just "there" in the crankcase (kind of like how it's suspended in the A/F mixture in a 2-stroke engine). You can turn those small 4-strokes 360 degrees with no ill effects.

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#485785 - 04/20/05 03:10 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
NThomas Offline


Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 153
Loc: utah
The Troybuilt trimmer is a Ryobi unit. This machine does NOT like to be run on its side.

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#485786 - 04/20/05 03:15 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
Ugly3 Offline


Registered: 08/06/04
Posts: 2635
Loc: Chicago
quote:
Originally posted by Jason Adcock:
Yes and no. You can turn them sideways and it will not affect lubrication. Most of those small 4-strokes basically atomize the oil, and it's just "there" in the crankcase (kind of like how it's suspended in the A/F mixture in a 2-stroke engine). You can turn those small 4-strokes 360 degrees with no ill effects.

What is the "no" part? [I dont know]

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#485787 - 04/20/05 06:27 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
kenw Offline


Registered: 10/10/04
Posts: 1979
Loc: Houston
don't you think the people who design small trimmers, where turning it at many odd angles is part of the task probably considered this when designing it??

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#485788 - 04/20/05 05:07 PM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 13081
Loc: North Carolina
quote:
Originally posted by Ugly3:
What is the "no" part? [I dont know]

Sorry, I meant "yes and no" as in, yes you can turn it 360 degrees, and no it will not affect lubrication.

If the engine in question really is the Briggs & Stratton Fource engine, you can read about it here:

http://www.briggsandstratton.com/display/router.asp?docid=98797

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#485789 - 04/21/05 09:07 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
drive it forever Offline


Registered: 09/03/04
Posts: 843
Loc: Grove City, OH
Found out that the troybilt 4-stroke weed trimmer engine is built by RYOBI die casting USA. They are makers of all the 2 and 4stroke weed trimmer engines used in MTD weed trimmers under the names like troybilt, yardman, ryobi, cub cadet.....

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#485790 - 04/21/05 09:16 AM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
blano Offline


Registered: 12/24/02
Posts: 687
Loc: Canada
quote:
Found out that the troybilt 4-stroke weed trimmer engine is built by RYOBI die casting USA. They are makers of all the 2 and 4stroke weed trimmer engines used in MTD weed trimmers under the names like troybilt, yardman, ryobi, cub cadet.....




Should have bought that Kawasaki I gave you the link for....

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#485791 - 04/20/05 10:03 PM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 13081
Loc: North Carolina
Here is a link to the Ryobi product:

http://www.ryobioutdoor.com/servlet/BrandProduct?ID=116&CAT=18

It does claim that it operates in all positions.

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#485792 - 04/21/05 11:03 PM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
NThomas Offline


Registered: 01/23/03
Posts: 153
Loc: utah
They DO NOT run 360 degrees continious! The ONLY unit that will is the honda. If you run that Ryobi/Troybuilt or the Briggs on its side for too long it will die. I have been to many dealer meetings and have talked about these.

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#485793 - 04/24/05 11:39 PM Re: 4-stroke weed trimmer, runs/starts great!
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 13081
Loc: North Carolina
False advertising from the manufacturers? It says right on the websites of both that they can be used in any orientation. If I bought one and it had a lubrication failure from operating it like the manufacturer told me I could, I'd be right upset. It's good information to know...that they'll fail if operated too long upside down...but it strikes me as odd that they're marketed for 360* operation, but can't stand up to the test.

[ April 25, 2005, 02:46 PM: Message edited by: Jason Adcock ]

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