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#345122 - 11/06/05 02:12 AM Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
dwcopple Offline


Registered: 10/11/04
Posts: 3388
Loc: Michigan
if it is made by Purolator...what is different about it and why do they cost more???

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#345123 - 11/06/05 02:42 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
Big O Dave Offline


Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 1412
Loc: The New State of Central Calif...
To begin, here is a photo of a Purolator Premium Plus L30001. Notice that it has a dome-end bypass valve.

Here is a photo of a Motorcraft FL-1A. It has a threaded-end bypass valve.

The advantage of a threaded-end bypass is that the oil doesn't have to wash over the dirt-laden element before entering the valve unfiltered... which is why Ford specifies a threaded-end bypass valve for its oil filters.

The Motorcraft also has larger baseplate openings, and appears to be optimized for flow over the already good-flowing Purolator. Some allege that the Motorcraft has the same filter element as the Purolator PureOne, but I haven't seen any proof of that.

Notice that they both have the telltale Purolator string around the filter element.

I'm sure others will fill in more details!

[Smile]

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#345124 - 11/06/05 03:04 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
T-Keith Offline


Registered: 01/20/04
Posts: 4865
Loc: MN
Silicone ADBV, usually threaded end bypass if applicable. If you have a Ford, they are actually easier to find.

-T

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#345125 - 11/06/05 07:10 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
labman Offline


Registered: 03/14/03
Posts: 8711
Loc: Nothern USA
So, has anybody put a tape measure to the media in each? Give me the Motorcraft cross from an ST 3950 or L 10193, and I will run one on my truck and report back. I am less happy with the ST 3950 since they went to a dome end clicker.

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#345126 - 11/06/05 07:24 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
Big O Dave Offline


Registered: 08/10/04
Posts: 1412
Loc: The New State of Central Calif...
[Big Grin]

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#345127 - 11/06/05 08:01 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
brianl703 Offline


Registered: 05/07/04
Posts: 10487
Loc: Manassas, VA
The FL-1A does not have a silicone ADBV.

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#345128 - 11/06/05 07:40 PM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
dwcopple Offline


Registered: 10/11/04
Posts: 3388
Loc: Michigan
lots of MC filters don't have a silicone ADBV

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#345129 - 11/07/05 08:46 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
Triple_Se7en Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 6410
Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
Brian Quote:
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The FL-1A does not have a silicone ADBV.


Huh!

Every one I saw with the threaded-end ADBV does have the silicone.

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#345130 - 11/07/05 08:58 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
wavinwayne Offline


Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 7522
Loc: North Alabama
Triple_Se7en,

The MC FL-1A filters around here all have the black (nitrile?) ADBV. The FL820S has the orange silicone ADBV.

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#345131 - 11/06/05 09:02 PM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
97tbird Online   sleepy


Registered: 05/09/03
Posts: 8613
Loc: Fayetteville, NC
s for silicon ( i use the FL 820 "S") [Smile]
no s, no silicon. that's what I was told.

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#345132 - 11/07/05 02:05 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
jsharp Offline


Registered: 12/25/02
Posts: 3585
Loc: Outside smalltown, IL
I've never seen an FL1A with a silicone ADBV. The Motorcraft media is different than a standard Purolator. It's built to a Ford spec.

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#345133 - 11/07/05 05:52 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
brianl703 Offline


Registered: 05/07/04
Posts: 10487
Loc: Manassas, VA
There are Ford filters that do not have "S" in the part number that DO have a silicone ADBV.

The reason is, I believe, because those filters that do have an S in the part number (FL-400S and FL-820S are all that I know about) were once available without a silicone ADBV, and the S was added to identify the new, improved model. (I believe the silicone ADBV was added to the FL-820S in 1995 or 1996, and that filter dates back to 1991 when it was introduced along with the 4.6L V8 that it fits).

Apparently, those that have a silicone ADBV and do not have an S in the part number were never made without one. I believe, if you check, you will find that the FL-200 and the FL-2005 have a silicone ADBV, and they were introduced in 1995 and 1998 respectively.

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#345134 - 11/07/05 06:35 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
wavinwayne Offline


Registered: 01/06/05
Posts: 7522
Loc: North Alabama
Is it safe to say that ALL of the black-colored ADBV's in MC filters are nitrile, & ALL the orange-colored ADBV's in MC filters are silicone?

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#345135 - 11/07/05 07:12 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
sdude2k2000 Offline


Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 380
Loc: Southern Oregon, USA
Are the filtration medias the same though?

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#345136 - 11/07/05 08:17 AM Re: Why is Motorcraft filter better than Purolator Prem Plus???
TallPaul Offline


Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 12953
Loc: By Detroit
I don't really know or care whether the Purolator or Motorcraft is better. I think they are both good. In fact I rather like the Fleetguard for its freer flow, but it does not have the threaded end bypass.

When I buy Purolator I get Premium Plus, not the more restrictive Pure One. The only thing I really care about is that the bypass is on the threaded end of the filter. I can get the extra long version of the FL1A (FL299) in Purolator and it has the threaded end bypass (L40017).

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