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#3165273 - 10/23/13 05:23 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: Chriznat20@msn.com]
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Originally Posted By: Chriznat20@msn.com
Originally Posted By: rrounds

Yes, I love Fuelly to see how the cars I'm looking at perform at the pump.
Looks like around 30.8 for 2014 gas engines.
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/gas%20l4
and 41.3 for the 2014 diesel
http://www.fuelly.com/car/chevrolet/cruze/diesel%20l4
That's 34% better mileage for the diesel.

ROD


ROD, Looking at the 2014 data from fuelly.com, its easy to see that 41.3mpg isn't for just diesel Cruzes, but ALL 2014's. Doh!

And the highest Cruze mpg from a diesel was 51.1mpg. But oops! That person is from Canada, eh? Imperial gallons. 51.1 IMPERIAL gallons = 42mpg in US gallons.

Anyways, moving forward...

You better look again, it says 23 diesel cars and if you count you will find 23 diesel Cruzes. The mpg is just for the diesel Cruze cars. If you add the gas engines the mpg will go down, not up.

ROD
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#3165507 - 10/23/13 08:33 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: CMB]
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So the diesel engine uses less fuel....
How much are people spending on DEF? If the car requires a large amount of it, it would make a huge difference in cost per mile.
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#3165542 - 10/23/13 08:55 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: cruzediesel]
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Registered: 11/11/10
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Loc: Saskatoon canada
Originally Posted By: Chriznat20@msn.com
So people will:

1.) Pay a premium for a diesel engine in the Cruze

2.) Pay anywhere from $.25-$.60 MORE per gallon for diesel over gasoline here in Michigan

3.) Have to buy Dexos2 oil at the dealer for $6-$8+ per QUART

What are the economic advantages of opting for a diesel engine over the gasoline engine they put in the Cruze Eco again?
Originally Posted By: cruzediesel
One more quick thing. It also states in the manual that 0w30 can be used in cold temperatures to ease engine startup.


Aren't they a really low emissions engine.

Originally Posted By: cruzediesel
One more quick thing. It also states in the manual that 0w30 can be used in cold temperatures to ease engine startup.



I wonder if devlac elite 222 0w-30 is on their approved list?
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#3166220 - 10/24/13 12:52 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: Chriznat20@msn.com]
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Registered: 10/01/10
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Originally Posted By: Chriznat20@msn.com
And the highest Cruze mpg from a diesel was 51.1mpg. But oops! That person is from Canada, eh? Imperial gallons. 51.1 IMPERIAL gallons = 42mpg in US gallons.

Anyways, moving forward...


I was in Canada last August, and bought fuel by the liter, not Imperial Gallons.
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#3166349 - 10/24/13 02:37 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: A_Harman]
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
Originally Posted By: Chriznat20@msn.com
And the highest Cruze mpg from a diesel was 51.1mpg. But oops! That person is from Canada, eh? Imperial gallons. 51.1 IMPERIAL gallons = 42mpg in US gallons.

Anyways, moving forward...


I was in Canada last August, and bought fuel by the liter, not Imperial Gallons.


Correct, we don't use gallons. And when we convert from L/100Km to gallons we can certainly choose to do either Imperial or US gallons, it really isn't that difficult.... Its not like we are ONLY allowed to convert to Imperial or something crzy LOL!
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#3166388 - 10/24/13 03:09 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: CMB]
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What do most people think of in Canada when converting to gallons, standard or Imperial?
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#3166406 - 10/24/13 03:19 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: A_Harman]
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Originally Posted By: A_Harman
What do most people think of in Canada when converting to gallons, standard or Imperial?


US gallons AFAIK. Nobody uses Imperial.
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#3166985 - 10/25/13 01:05 AM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: CMB]
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Canadian dealers typically cheat a bit by posting miles in imperial gal (4.5L/Gal) to get a more impressive fuel mileage chart on their car lots.

If it's go with Litres/km...then the reflected fuel mileage should be accurate so long as the proper US gal/mile to km conversion is done correctly.

Q.
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#3167002 - 10/25/13 02:08 AM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: OVERKILL]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
US gallons AFAIK. Nobody uses Imperial.

Well, there are some. If it's an old codger who bought gas when it was still sold in Imperial gallons (I am not one of those, by the way wink ), then they'll use Imperial gallons. My Town Car, however, used American gallons if I switched off of metric.
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#3168703 - 10/26/13 07:24 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: artificialist]
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Originally Posted By: artificialist
So the diesel engine uses less fuel....
How much are people spending on DEF? If the car requires a large amount of it, it would make a huge difference in cost per mile.

I have no idea how much DEF the Cruze will use, but I've found it for $4.50 a gal.
My big concern is how long will the engine and drivetrain last?

If you have to rebuild the transmission every 100k miles, then its not cost effective. I like to see how the repair record goes for a car for the first few years before I put my cash down on a vehicle.

If the Cruze diesel gets good marks for reliability then it's resale will be higher than the gas model(with the same miles) to get you more money on the back side when you sell it.

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#3168849 - 10/26/13 10:17 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: Brybo86]
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Castrol Edge 5W-40
AAP has it on sale with now 5 quarts and a Fram Ultra filter for 29.99....? not bad


It calls for 5w30. People need to stop default recommending a 40 weight oil for a diesel.

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#3168972 - 10/27/13 03:47 AM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: BlazerLT]
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Old habits are hard to break, though, and there are some real traps out there that will catch you. With this, at least, you expect something odd thanks to the dexos2 specification. I've seen diesel OPE with no interesting specifications that happens to call for a 10w-30 HDEO. A 40 grade has been the norm for so long, and without having a manual in one's hand, a 40 grade is a good guess, but no more than that.
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#3178270 - 11/04/13 02:04 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: artificialist]
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Registered: 10/04/12
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Loc: Acworth, GA
Originally Posted By: artificialist
So the diesel engine uses less fuel....
How much are people spending on DEF? If the car requires a large amount of it, it would make a huge difference in cost per mile.


DEF is cheap and the TDI Passat people usually top off at about 10k intervals for roughly 15-20 bucks. I'd imagine its similar in this motor.
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#3195353 - 11/23/13 01:36 AM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: stchman]
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Do not feel bad even engineers call a "water heater" a hot water heater. Go figure.
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#3196877 - 11/24/13 05:59 PM Re: 2014 diesel chevy cruze - what oil [Re: CMB]
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Registered: 01/08/13
Posts: 981
Loc: Santa Ana, California
Originally Posted By: CMB
I have a real hard time believing GM when they say to run standard dexos 2 5w-30 and not a diesel spec'd oil.

But Dexos *2* is not standard oil. It's a diesel oil. Also GM is not the only one recommending 5w-30, since VW also recommends that same weight (carrying the VW 507 spec if I recall correctly).
So:
What's it like driving the new diesel Cruze? I would love to take one for a testdrive.

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