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#2984919 - 04/25/13 11:31 PM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
crazyoildude Offline


Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 5243
Loc: new jersey
i use the classic i like flow!
everyone says something different but my oil gauges never lie!

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#2984934 - 04/26/13 12:04 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: crazyoildude]
gregk24 Online   content


Registered: 04/13/13
Posts: 2603
Loc: FL, USA
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
i use the classic i like flow!
everyone says something different but my oil gauges never lie!


So does the Fram Ultra or PureOne have bad flow? vs the classic?


Edited by gregk24 (04/26/13 12:04 AM)
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#2984947 - 04/26/13 12:30 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
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Registered: 06/21/12
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Neither is a bad filter and neither is better than the other. Don't be afraid to choose either one. You literally can not make a bad choice between those two filters.
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#2984950 - 04/26/13 12:35 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: chubbs1]
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Originally Posted By: chubbs1
DON'T OVERTHINK THIS!!


OMG!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU!!!!!!

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#2984952 - 04/26/13 12:44 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
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Originally Posted By: gregk24
Originally Posted By: HTSS_TR
If you don't like to extend drain interval to take advantage of synthetic oil, then Pennzoil Yellow Box or Mobil Super or almost any brand name dino will be more than adequate for 5k OCI. Purolator Pure One also more than adequate for that short OCI.


Ok thanks for the advice...but the ill continue to use synthetic, just because of the superior protection it offers. I think ill continue to use the castrol after doing more research, it the new titanium any better? and is the Fram Ultra a BETTER filter? I know both are adequate, but which is BETTER?

Based on your planned OCI there is no "superior protection" by using synthetic; just "superior cost" -- not trying to beat you up; just to point that out.
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#2984956 - 04/26/13 12:53 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
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Registered: 09/16/04
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Originally Posted By: gregk24

Ok thanks for the advice...but the ill continue to use synthetic, just because of the superior protection it offers.


You're new here. Take people's advice, especially the ones that have been around a bit.

"dino" oil will not cause any more wear to your engine.
A 5k OCI on the most expensive off the shelf syn oil and filter does not mean less wear vs the cheapest name brand oil and filter.

We're all glad you're stepping up to the DIY part. Take same time to read and soak in more info from this site. Eventually you'll realize that as long as you maintain the car, oil/filter brand doesn't make much difference in 90%+ of passenger car applications. Then you'll start hoarding rebate/sale oil and filters and that's where real DIY savings come in. Value trumps performance for the majority of oil use on here. Unless you have some German or similar spec that must be met.
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#2984961 - 04/26/13 01:08 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: surfstar]
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Registered: 04/13/13
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Originally Posted By: surfstar
Originally Posted By: gregk24

Ok thanks for the advice...but the ill continue to use synthetic, just because of the superior protection it offers.


You're new here. Take people's advice, especially the ones that have been around a bit.

"dino" oil will not cause any more wear to your engine.
A 5k OCI on the most expensive off the shelf syn oil and filter does not mean less wear vs the cheapest name brand oil and filter.

We're all glad you're stepping up to the DIY part. Take same time to read and soak in more info from this site. Eventually you'll realize that as long as you maintain the car, oil/filter brand doesn't make much difference in 90%+ of passenger car applications. Then you'll start hoarding rebate/sale oil and filters and that's where real DIY savings come in. Value trumps performance for the majority of oil use on here. Unless you have some German or similar spec that must be met.


and i thank everyone for there help! i am new to these forums and car maintenance, i usually just take things to the mechanic. I just want the best for my car, i treat her like my baby. And my main thing is that i do lots of harsh driving...doesnt that account for anything? most people probably get out on the highway or have commutes to work, i dont. I live 3 miles from school and less than 2 miles from work...that equals oil not up to temp and fuel in oil and cold start wear. thats why i use synthetic for better flow and im assuming it clings better to parts. I know im a bit or very obsessive. car maintenance is something im adamant about. Am i wrong about the short trip thing? i wouldnt have a problem extending drain intervals if i drove on the highway mainly but almost 95% of my driving is short trip. and of that most is stop and go. and thanks again for all of you help! i really do appreciate it! im in the learning stage for sure!


Edited by gregk24 (04/26/13 01:09 AM)
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#2984981 - 04/26/13 03:12 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
KB2008X Offline


Registered: 06/21/12
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Loc: St. Louis, MO.
Yeah, those kinds of short drives are a tiny bit more problematic than longer trips, but it is a minute difference. The solution is to get the car out on the highway every week or two and run 15-20 miles one way then back home. It's literally that simple. No worries.

Keith
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#2984990 - 04/26/13 03:40 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
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Registered: 11/11/10
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Loc: Saskatoon canada
For 5000 mile drains any conventional oil will be fine and any filter will be fine. Premium filters cost what they do because they are meant to run for extended intervals. The same goes for synthetic oil. At 5000 mile drains I will bet a stack that the wear numbers would be near identical using a syn vs conventional.
Unless you live in an extremely cold climate or drive the car on a track you are wasting money using a syn and draining at 5000 miles.
Take some of the experienced members advice here. You asked because you don't know so don't dismiss relevant info because it doesn't fit your ideas.
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#2985030 - 04/26/13 06:15 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
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Registered: 06/06/12
Posts: 51
Loc: New Jersey
In any part of fl at any time of year any oil with the same weight number will flow so quickly even in a controlled experiment it might not be discernible. It's only when it's 0 or really even colder that stuff comes into play .
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#2985080 - 04/26/13 07:29 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
donnyj08 Offline


Registered: 08/12/12
Posts: 1013
Loc: indiana
P1 and EDGE sounds like a good combo. EDGE has a high TBN it should be safe for longer than 5k. I don't see why 7.5k isn't easily doable with a safety margin in most engines.

I'm going to run the EDGE FST 8k in my S2000. Most here are going to recommend Mobil over EDGE. Most here are SOPUS or M 1 fans.

Either oil will protect you engine the same. If you've been happy with edge so far keep using it, it's and excellent lube.


Edited by donnyj08 (04/26/13 07:31 AM)
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#2985097 - 04/26/13 07:49 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
SLCraig Offline


Registered: 12/21/08
Posts: 5269
Loc: London, ON, Canada
I've been using P1's on my Honda for most of the time I've had it. No complaints. Good filter at a good price.
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#2985108 - 04/26/13 07:56 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
A_Harman Offline


Registered: 10/01/10
Posts: 4085
Loc: Michigan
In Florida, you don't get cold starts in the way that we think about them on BITOG, and the oil has more to do with startup delay of oil pressure than the filter does. As long as both filters stay charged with oil on shutdown, +/- 1psi in pressure drop through one filter compared to another isn't going to make any difference.

Either filter will do the job for you.
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#2985116 - 04/26/13 08:07 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
Danno Offline


Registered: 10/07/12
Posts: 733
Loc: Northern Ontario, Canada
Just to give some perspective, I have 3 cars parked outside all winter. 2008 Cobalt, 2010 Corolla, and 2010 Mazda 3. The cold starts are in the area of -20F and I have seen as cold as -37F this winter. They do short trips and they get synthetic every 6 months or 5,000 miles. I have no concerns that the engines will outlive the rest of the car.

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#2985117 - 04/26/13 08:11 AM Re: Fram Ultra / Purolator Pure One [Re: gregk24]
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Registered: 03/04/13
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Loc: Va
Right now AAP has 5qts of castrol edge with a fram ultra for 29.99. Look at the deals there are often combos with the filters and oils you listed. Try a few different oils by getting in on deals. If one "feels better" in your engine then stick with that and start a stash when on sale.
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