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#2896239 - 02/05/13 11:26 AM 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options
bweier Offline


Registered: 02/05/13
Posts: 5
Loc: Kalamazoo, MI USA
Hello everyone:
I have been reading the forums online and have found this one to likely be the best place to get the answer to my question. I have a 1998 BMW M3 (E36 S52 3.2 L engine) with about 108,000 miles on it and just did a complete Schedule II maintenance on it including dropping and changing all the fluids. I have been using Mobile 1 0w-40 for the past 3 years since buying the car and change it every 10,000 miles with a filter change at 5,000. I drive aggressively, but rarely over 80mph, I drive only about 10,000 miles per year, and most is city driving under 50mph. We rarely get below 0 degrees Fahrenheit or above 90 degrees Fahrenheit here in Michigan. You can guess my next question...what BMW LL-01 would be the "best" for my situation? Best = protects my car #1 and suitable to my driving/weather conditions. I feel the Mobil 1 is starting to burn a bit more as the car ages and I don't mind spending more to protect my baby...cost is not a major concern. Other possible options I have tried to research would be Motul 8100 Xcess, Pentosin Pento High Performance 5w-30, or of course the OEM oil from BMW.
Thoughts?

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#2896245 - 02/05/13 11:30 AM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
electrolover Offline


Registered: 12/04/10
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Welcome to BITOG!

You wont find a better oil than M1 0/40. Its very highly respected here.

You said its using oil, just how much is it using?

If I were to try anything else, it would be Pennzoil Ultra 5/40. Its a close second
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#2896254 - 02/05/13 11:35 AM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
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Keep using M1 0w-40.
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#2896269 - 02/05/13 11:57 AM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
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Registered: 11/18/05
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Yes it's hard to find anything better than M1 0W-40 for the money. As mentioned PU 5W-40 (or PU 0W-40) would be a good alternative but only if you can source it for less than M1.
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#2896286 - 02/05/13 12:18 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: electrolover]
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Registered: 02/05/13
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Loc: Kalamazoo, MI USA
Thanks for the quick responses! I would say I "burn" an extra 1/2 quart or so between oil changes. I will monitor it much more closely this rotation. As far as Mobil 1 is concerned, is my 10,000 mile interval correct and is my 5,000 mile filter change overkill or a good idea? My primary concern with the oil would be proper viscosity/quality near the end of oci for my older engine...thus the "cost isn't important" boast on my part.

BTW, I used Pentosin ATF-1 for my power steering and automatic transmission fluid, ATE Super Blue for the brakes, and Red Line 75w-90 for the rear diff. Fcpgroton has been great for my Schedule II parts and my local mechanic Mark is awesome.

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#2896292 - 02/05/13 12:24 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
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Oil filter and other filters are actually more efficient as miles pile up, I would leave oil filter on at full interval of 10k miles.
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#2896311 - 02/05/13 12:40 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
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Get a UOA just to confirm all is golden with your current regiment. I recently discovered that I have a decent fuel dilution issue happening and am shortening my interval due to that.
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#2896330 - 02/05/13 01:00 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: OVERKILL]
bweier Offline


Registered: 02/05/13
Posts: 5
Loc: Kalamazoo, MI USA
Blackstone?

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#2896332 - 02/05/13 01:00 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: electrolover]
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Originally Posted By: electrolover
Welcome to BITOG!

You wont find a better oil than M1 0/40. Its very highly respected here.

You said its using oil, just how much is it using?

If I were to try anything else, it would be Pennzoil Ultra 5/40. Its a close second
Or T6

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#2896337 - 02/05/13 01:08 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
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Originally Posted By: bweier
Blackstone?


Sure, I use Toromont, but the same logic applies smile
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#2896405 - 02/05/13 02:08 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
CATERHAM Offline


Registered: 11/18/05
Posts: 9519
Loc: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: bweier
I would say I "burn" an extra 1/2 quart or so between oil changes. I will monitor it much more closely this rotation. As far as Mobil 1 is concerned, is my 10,000 mile interval correct and is my 5,000 mile filter change overkill or a good idea? My primary concern with the oil would be proper viscosity/quality near the end of oci for my older engine...thus the "cost isn't important" boast on my part.

It doesn't sound like your oil consumption is excessive.
I see no point in changing the oil filter element more often than the oil and 5,000 miles is a very short interval for the large BMW filter.
Your engine doesn't actually require a 40wt oil for the way you're using your car so you need not be concerned about the oil being too thin at the end of your 10,000 mile/annual OCI.
So stick to the oil you're using but don't change the filter until you change the oil.
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#2896446 - 02/05/13 02:53 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
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Registered: 06/22/12
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You can get mag1 5w40 euro which is ll-01 on amazon for about $1 per qt cheaper than m1,delivered to you door.
Do uoa with tbn for both and deside which one you want to keep using. Rotella t6 might do a trick too.


Edited by MBS500 (02/05/13 02:53 PM)
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#2896611 - 02/05/13 05:11 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
fdcg27 Offline


Registered: 09/25/09
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I'd stick with the M1.
It's a well proven oil that is readily available and meets the spec for your BMW.
The BMW-labeled Castrol is a pretty good deal but not a better oil.
Even if cost is of no concern, I don't think you'll find a better oil than M1 0W-40 for your car.
Incidentally, a little oil consumption in an aging BMW is hardly exceptional.
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#2896622 - 02/05/13 05:18 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: bweier]
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Registered: 03/15/06
Posts: 3413
Loc: Buffalo, NY
Half-a-quart is nothing. You could keep using M1 0W-40 and maybe stretch out the OCI to 7,500 mi's as you're topping off with fresh oil.

I think I see a lot of Beamer posters using Mobil 1 10W-40 HM here and you could try it in the warmer part of the year, then go back to 0W-40 in winter. But that's not necessary...

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#2896654 - 02/05/13 05:40 PM Re: 1998 BMW M3 ll-01 Oil options [Re: fdcg27]
bweier Offline


Registered: 02/05/13
Posts: 5
Loc: Kalamazoo, MI USA
My buddy works at O'Rielly Auto Parts and he has (2) 5 liter jugs of Pentosin Pento High Performance 5w-30 for $35 each. I am tempted to try this out as I have been very impressed with the Pentosin ATF-1 that I use for power steering and tranny fluid. It seems Pentosin fluids are high quality. Anybody try the engine oil?

BTW I am currently doing OCI of 10,000...too long?


Edited by bweier (02/05/13 05:42 PM)

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