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#2756816 - 09/28/12 02:39 AM PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 472
Loc: Arizona


It's been awhile since I've had a UOA done. This is my first time going back to a conventional oil (PYB). I have been running QSUD before.

I'm a bit concerned about the copper... TBN looks good for PYB.

Any thoughts?

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#2756829 - 09/28/12 03:49 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Registered: 06/03/12
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How many miles are on your Miata?
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#2756878 - 09/28/12 06:55 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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I would not increase the OCI just yet. Stick to a 5k mile OCI for the sake of consistiency.

Monitor is the correct term here. Not time to panic. May be just a temporary.
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#2756879 - 09/28/12 06:55 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Looks like 180k
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#2756931 - 09/28/12 08:24 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Does the engine spec 10w30 ? Does it allow for 5W30 ?? You might try 5w30 it it allows for it and see if it brings that wear down for you.
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#2756932 - 09/28/12 08:24 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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in other news , holy moly , calcium and zinc !!!!!!!
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#2756934 - 09/28/12 08:26 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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That's a lot of high revving miles on that engine. PYB is a good oil for you and I would stay with a 5K OCI...
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#2756939 - 09/28/12 08:32 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Wow TBN is still pretty high for a DIno pub gets my vote

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#2756964 - 09/28/12 08:58 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
Char Baby Offline


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What was you previous oil?
Looks like there are some additives remaining from the other oil???

If PYB 10W30 looks this good, we should all be using it! smile
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#2757038 - 09/28/12 10:51 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
OMCWankel Offline


Registered: 09/16/04
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Hi JGmazda,
The report looks good. The only thing I saw was that the vis took a hit dropping to 9.5 cSt. I have two Miatas (Gen 1 and 2) that have more than 180K miles on them. My first Miata (now gone) went 300K with no internal engine work. I target a vis of around 11 cSt or better. Several of us Miata owners, including some on this board, are using Rotella T6 5W-40 with good results.
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#2757156 - 09/28/12 12:57 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 472
Loc: Arizona
Hello Everyone!

I want to thank you all for your advice. My car does indeed have 180K miles. I thought I'd give the new PYB (SN) a run and see how it performed.

Yeah... It's interesting to see the high Moly, Calcium and Zinc.
I think the PYB is a very nice oil. It certainly seems to have the additives.

I have used many oils over the years. Everything from Mobil to Maxlife. There's such a wide-range of viscosity specs for this engine. 10w-30 is what I usually run here in Phoenix. I have used 5w-30 in the cooler parts of the year.

These engines rev like crazy on the highway. I am hoping my next UOA will show a reduction in the Copper levels. I've been advised that I shouldn't worry too much as the new "SN" cleaning pack might be the reason.

I guess we shall find out on the next UOA! I appreciate all the comments!

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#2757164 - 09/28/12 01:01 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: dnewton3]
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
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Loc: Arizona
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
I would not increase the OCI just yet. Stick to a 5k mile OCI for the sake of consistiency.

Monitor is the correct term here. Not time to panic. May be just a temporary.


Thanks! Yes, it may just be a small spike related to the test. I'll see what the next UOA brings.

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#2757173 - 09/28/12 01:08 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: OMCWankel]
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 472
Loc: Arizona
Thanks for the advice. Yes, this has been the best little car! These engines seem to be built for a least 300K miles. I've heard about the Rotella T6. It's interesting to see a higher cSt oil being used.

Have you noticed an improvement by going with the T6?

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#2757358 - 09/28/12 03:27 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
OMCWankel Offline


Registered: 09/16/04
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Loc: Florida
I've tried 10W30 before (M1 10W-30 EP) and was not pleased with the results (seat of pants test, engine noise/smoothness). I then added some M1 15W-50 to the mix and it got better - I ran a UOA at that point (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...9978#Post949978).
The Rotella T6 is at least as good (SOP test) as that blend. I am going to run a UOA soon. A Miata UOA on Rotella T6:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1639610
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