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#2756816 - 09/28/12 02:39 AM PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 416
Loc: Southwest


It's been awhile since I've had a UOA done. This is my first time going back to a conventional oil (PYB). I have been running QSUD before.

I'm a bit concerned about the copper... TBN looks good for PYB.

Any thoughts?

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#2756829 - 09/28/12 03:49 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
DemoFly Offline


Registered: 06/03/12
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Loc: Seattle
How many miles are on your Miata?
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#2756878 - 09/28/12 06:55 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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I would not increase the OCI just yet. Stick to a 5k mile OCI for the sake of consistiency.

Monitor is the correct term here. Not time to panic. May be just a temporary.
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#2756879 - 09/28/12 06:55 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Looks like 180k
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#2756931 - 09/28/12 08:24 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Does the engine spec 10w30 ? Does it allow for 5W30 ?? You might try 5w30 it it allows for it and see if it brings that wear down for you.
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#2756932 - 09/28/12 08:24 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
bourne Offline


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in other news , holy moly , calcium and zinc !!!!!!!
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#2756934 - 09/28/12 08:26 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Registered: 11/07/09
Posts: 1821
Loc: Oconomowoc Wi
That's a lot of high revving miles on that engine. PYB is a good oil for you and I would stay with a 5K OCI...

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#2756939 - 09/28/12 08:32 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
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Registered: 10/13/10
Posts: 467
Loc: New York Queens
Wow TBN is still pretty high for a DIno pub gets my vote

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#2756964 - 09/28/12 08:58 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
Char Baby Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 6581
Loc: Rochester NY
What was you previous oil?
Looks like there are some additives remaining from the other oil???

If PYB 10W30 looks this good, we should all be using it! smile
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#2757038 - 09/28/12 10:51 AM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
OMCWankel Offline


Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 226
Loc: Florida
Hi JGmazda,
The report looks good. The only thing I saw was that the vis took a hit dropping to 9.5 cSt. I have two Miatas (Gen 1 and 2) that have more than 180K miles on them. My first Miata (now gone) went 300K with no internal engine work. I target a vis of around 11 cSt or better. Several of us Miata owners, including some on this board, are using Rotella T6 5W-40 with good results.
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#2757156 - 09/28/12 12:57 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
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Loc: Southwest
Hello Everyone!

I want to thank you all for your advice. My car does indeed have 180K miles. I thought I'd give the new PYB (SN) a run and see how it performed.

Yeah... It's interesting to see the high Moly, Calcium and Zinc.
I think the PYB is a very nice oil. It certainly seems to have the additives.

I have used many oils over the years. Everything from Mobil to Maxlife. There's such a wide-range of viscosity specs for this engine. 10w-30 is what I usually run here in Phoenix. I have used 5w-30 in the cooler parts of the year.

These engines rev like crazy on the highway. I am hoping my next UOA will show a reduction in the Copper levels. I've been advised that I shouldn't worry too much as the new "SN" cleaning pack might be the reason.

I guess we shall find out on the next UOA! I appreciate all the comments!

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#2757164 - 09/28/12 01:01 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: dnewton3]
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 416
Loc: Southwest
Originally Posted By: dnewton3
I would not increase the OCI just yet. Stick to a 5k mile OCI for the sake of consistiency.

Monitor is the correct term here. Not time to panic. May be just a temporary.


Thanks! Yes, it may just be a small spike related to the test. I'll see what the next UOA brings.

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#2757173 - 09/28/12 01:08 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: OMCWankel]
JGmazda Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 416
Loc: Southwest
Thanks for the advice. Yes, this has been the best little car! These engines seem to be built for a least 300K miles. I've heard about the Rotella T6. It's interesting to see a higher cSt oil being used.

Have you noticed an improvement by going with the T6?

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#2757358 - 09/28/12 03:27 PM Re: PYB, 10W-30, 5,510mi. 1994 Mazda Miata [Re: JGmazda]
OMCWankel Offline


Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 226
Loc: Florida
I've tried 10W30 before (M1 10W-30 EP) and was not pleased with the results (seat of pants test, engine noise/smoothness). I then added some M1 15W-50 to the mix and it got better - I ran a UOA at that point (http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...9978#Post949978).
The Rotella T6 is at least as good (SOP test) as that blend. I am going to run a UOA soon. A Miata UOA on Rotella T6:
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...rue#Post1639610
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