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#2739599 - 09/10/12 12:42 PM 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter
pickler Offline


Registered: 06/10/11
Posts: 42
Loc: toronto
hi guys i have an 09 impreza 2.5i and i do mostly city/traffic driving with 10mile long trips each time. the weather is cooling off now and since i do 3750mi OCI i will do a bit of Canadian November driving on this oil. i dont generally warm up the car (idle) for more than 15 seconds for fuel economy reasons. my car runs pig rich when cold so i just drive under 2000rpm for a few minutes until coolant temp is hot. walmart currently has Valvoline synpower on sale for $20 a jug and i can get the Pennzoil conventional yellow bottle for $25 a jug. i like the Pennzoil more on paper because it seems to be packed with additives (8.3 tbn, 2400 Ca, 868 Zi, 269 moly). The synpower however is synthetic with lower pour point (-42c vs -39) and also cheaper. which is better for me?


Edited by pickler (09/10/12 12:45 PM)
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#2739604 - 09/10/12 12:44 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
71Chevyguy Offline


Registered: 07/10/11
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Loc: Martinsburg West Virginia
For cold weather I would personally go with Synthetic oil regardless of brand for cold flow reasons. But unless you are going to be in extreme temps I imagine you would be just fine with either of those oils.
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#2739607 - 09/10/12 12:45 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
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Registered: 02/11/12
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Loc: WA - Washington
Synpower
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#2739610 - 09/10/12 12:47 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 1436
Loc: Occupied Virginia
My 2001 Impreza valvetrain sounds noisy on Pennzoil products but sounds great using SynPower, most noticeably during the colder winter months. Not very scientific but it's enough for me to keep using SynPower.

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#2739615 - 09/10/12 12:55 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: Bottom_Feeder]
pickler Offline


Registered: 06/10/11
Posts: 42
Loc: toronto
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
My 2001 Impreza valvetrain sounds noisy on Pennzoil products but sounds great using SynPower, most noticeably during the colder winter months. Not very scientific but it's enough for me to keep using SynPower.


well that's 3/3 recommending synpower. noise is not an issue for me, im mostly worried about MPG and engine wear to be honest.


Edited by pickler (09/10/12 12:57 PM)
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#2739628 - 09/10/12 01:11 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Either is great. Might as well go for price.

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#2739644 - 09/10/12 01:23 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
tinmanSC Offline


Registered: 09/07/10
Posts: 1922
Loc: Oswego, IL
SynPower for the win!*
*You may disregard this recommendation as I am just a Valvoline fan boy.
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#2739664 - 09/10/12 01:37 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
OilNerd Offline


Registered: 09/14/09
Posts: 1235
Loc: Plattsburgh, NY
Take the SynPower on sale.
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#2739667 - 09/10/12 01:39 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
SLCraig Offline


Registered: 12/21/08
Posts: 5286
Loc: London, ON, Canada
$20 is awesome for SynPower..... I will have to check my Walmart later today, and if its that price, I will have to stock up.

SynPower no doubt, at that price.
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#2739680 - 09/10/12 01:49 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
KCJeep Offline


Registered: 06/30/11
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Mostly city driving, Canadian winter coming, Synpower makes the most sense IMO.
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#2739703 - 09/10/12 02:13 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: SLCraig]
Bottom_Feeder Offline


Registered: 12/07/08
Posts: 1436
Loc: Occupied Virginia
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
$20 is awesome for SynPower..... I will have to check my Walmart later today, and if its that price, I will have to stock up.

SynPower no doubt, at that price.

Anyone know if it's just jugs or also single quarts?

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#2739707 - 09/10/12 02:19 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: Bottom_Feeder]
SLCraig Offline


Registered: 12/21/08
Posts: 5286
Loc: London, ON, Canada
Originally Posted By: Bottom_Feeder
Originally Posted By: SLCraig
$20 is awesome for SynPower..... I will have to check my Walmart later today, and if its that price, I will have to stock up.

SynPower no doubt, at that price.

Anyone know if it's just jugs or also single quarts?


FYI - If his profile is correct, (Toronto) this is a Canadian sale apparently. Just a heads up.
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#2739755 - 09/10/12 03:13 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
mongo161 Offline


Registered: 07/11/10
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Loc: Coney Island, NY
Toronto in the winter.....Valvoline SynPower is the best bet.
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#2739776 - 09/10/12 03:48 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
volk06 Offline


Registered: 10/04/10
Posts: 4273
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SYNPOWER:
VI: 172
PP: -42C
MRV @-35: 18,000
CCS: 4300@-30
VIS 40: 59.5
VIS 100: 10.7

PYB:
VI: 158
PP: -39C
MRV: 15,900 @-35
CCS: 5800@-30
VIS 40: 63.9
VIS 100: 10.5
HTHS: 3.0

When looking at these specs it looks like synpower has the edge in cold properites. It will be lighter at start up than PYB due to its higher VI. The only missing data piece is synpowers HTHS value for a complete comparson.
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#2739786 - 09/10/12 03:55 PM Re: 5w-30 PBY or Synpower for fall-winter [Re: pickler]
lexus114 Offline


Registered: 05/12/08
Posts: 6009
Loc: Easton, PA
The Pennzoil Bottle Yellow?? PBY. J/K
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