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#2729944 - 08/30/12 05:49 PM Michelin Defender ?
eldoguy Offline


Registered: 08/31/04
Posts: 29
Loc: Skokie,ill
Does any one know the difference between the Michelin Defender and the Defender 'XT" other than being sold by a big box store ? Was it modified to make it cheaper ? TX.

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#2729971 - 08/30/12 06:26 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
tenderloin Offline


Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 6016
Loc: Huntington Beach, CA
Slightly different tread. Not sure construction or compound difference

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#2730014 - 08/30/12 07:07 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
tenderloin Offline


Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 6016
Loc: Huntington Beach, CA
The XT has 80,000 mile warranty while Defender has 90,000 on same speed rating.

Defender

Defender XT

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#2730052 - 08/30/12 07:40 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
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Registered: 12/08/11
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#2730078 - 08/30/12 08:14 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
bepperb Offline


Registered: 01/10/08
Posts: 4661
Loc: Milwaukee, WI
Not modified to make it cheaper, different tread pattern to keep tire shops from feeling the competition from box stores. I'd consider them interchangeable. Michelin has done this a lot, the Michelin LTX vs the X Radial LT (same tire) spring to mind.

It may be that the xt is not directional and the defender regular is, but this may also vary by size. Personally I'd prefer a non directional tire.
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#2730154 - 08/30/12 09:48 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: bepperb]
eldoguy Offline


Registered: 08/31/04
Posts: 29
Loc: Skokie,ill
Ya, Im with you on the directional thing. Its. easier to "fix" things by moving tires to the other side if you are having a problem. I thought the secret to. This tire was the tread design if you alter the thread is it the same tire? l

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#2730490 - 08/31/12 09:23 AM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
Hokiefyd Offline


Registered: 06/24/04
Posts: 11119
Loc: North Carolina
Neither tire is directional. The Defender appears to have some directionality to the tread, but it's not a directional tire. It is an asymmetrical tire, though, and they can be cross-rotated like any other tire.

The Defender XT is a symmetrical tire, meaning that it can be mounted with either sidewall facing in or out. I do like the tread pattern of the XT better, and I've had excellent service from club-only tires before (Michelin X Radial DT).
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#2730683 - 08/31/12 12:15 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
eldoguy Offline


Registered: 08/31/04
Posts: 29
Loc: Skokie,ill
I wonder how much tires are statisically different regarding traction , wear , contact patch ect. I havent seen any specs listed for the xt . I would think if the tread was different the specs would
differ . With that being said I always buy at costco and have never experienced any issues. Im trying to decided if these tires are 125.00 better than the BF goodrich Advantage t/A for my Eldo . I hand the hyro edge tires before and thought they were ok but lacked a little on snow .

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#2730803 - 08/31/12 01:32 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
N3OO Offline


Registered: 06/23/08
Posts: 102
Loc: PA
I just bought these DEFENDER tires last week for my 2005 Toyota Camry at $571.68 out the door bal/ mtd with 6% PA tax included. PLUS the $70 rebate is on its way. SOOoooo for $500 bucks I have new tires haaa!!! Took off Yokohama Avid TRZ....I hated them. The Defenders feel great / smooth / secure with 32.5 psi.
ALSO purchased MICH MS2's for my 2003 Chevy Silverado......so for a lil over $1100 for both rides , I'm MICHELIN equipped.
BOB

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#2733285 - 09/03/12 09:07 AM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: N3OO]
exploreco Offline


Registered: 12/09/11
Posts: 48
Loc: Central, IL
Originally Posted By: N3OO
I just bought these DEFENDER tires last week for my 2005 Toyota Camry at $571.68 out the door bal/ mtd with 6% PA tax included. PLUS the $70 rebate is on its way. SOOoooo for $500 bucks I have new tires haaa!!! Took off Yokohama Avid TRZ....I hated them. The Defenders feel great / smooth / secure with 32.5 psi.
ALSO purchased MICH MS2's for my 2003 Chevy Silverado......so for a lil over $1100 for both rides , I'm MICHELIN equipped.
BOB


Just did the same thing with my 2004 Camry in May. Replaced the Yoko Avid TRZ I got last time. Only had 35,000 on them but they had gotten so noisey. Have put about 5,000 on the Defenders this summer traveling and have done well so far. We drove through some very heavy rains on vacation and they felt great. Although, I am sure any new tire would. Hope they do ok in the winter in light snow.
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#2742580 - 09/13/12 11:27 AM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
tribocessive Offline


Registered: 07/21/12
Posts: 277
Loc: bay area california
just put defenders on my sled yesterday and after 200 miles i can already say that they are da kine.
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#2746611 - 09/17/12 03:20 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
Smokescreen Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 2301
Loc: Alberta, Canada
"da kine"

... a search on Google revealed nothing...does this mean good or bad?
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#2748947 - 09/19/12 11:48 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: Smokescreen]
tribocessive Offline


Registered: 07/21/12
Posts: 277
Loc: bay area california
"da kine" = pigeon hawaiian for "the kind" or, loosely, the kind of ______ that you are looking for when you are looking for the best; got that, hoser? also, "sled" = vehicle; it is not a reference to an iditirod sled or anything; if you get yourself some defenders you will be getting some excellent, smooth-riding, low rolling-resistant tires with a 90k mi warranty; they are a brand new design.


Edited by tribocessive (09/19/12 11:54 PM)
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#2749900 - 09/20/12 08:39 PM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: eldoguy]
ARB1977 Offline


Registered: 06/12/05
Posts: 4477
Loc: North Texas
I'm getting the defenders for the CRV tomorrow.
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#2750243 - 09/21/12 08:36 AM Re: Michelin Defender ? [Re: tribocessive]
Smokescreen Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 2301
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Originally Posted By: tribocessive
"da kine" = pigeon hawaiian for "the kind" or, loosely, the kind of ______ that you are looking for when you are looking for the best; got that, hoser? also, "sled" = vehicle; it is not a reference to an iditirod sled or anything; if you get yourself some defenders you will be getting some excellent, smooth-riding, low rolling-resistant tires with a 90k mi warranty; they are a brand new design.


One must understand on a world wide forum that local colloquialisms are not universally understood.



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Edited by Smokescreen (09/21/12 08:39 AM)
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