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#2682297 - 07/12/12 10:37 PM Re: Honda quality in the 2000's [Re: Dave424]
john_pifer Offline

Registered: 07/08/12
Posts: 838
Loc: Nashville, TN via Memphis
I owned a 1990 Accord (made in Japan) and a 2004 Accord (made in Ohio).

The '90 felt very well-made - the doors sounded like the proverbial vault when closing. No problems whatsoever with the car.

The '04 was also a good car, although it didn't have the solid feel of the '90 model.
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#2682661 - 07/13/12 10:33 AM Re: Honda quality in the 2000's [Re: Dave424]
z917990 Offline

Registered: 07/02/05
Posts: 390
Loc: DeKalb, IL
Obviously, my experience may not be representative of anything, but here it is.
1. 1999 Accord - 2.3 litre w. 5 speed manual. Complete POS. Multiple problems - a money pit. At 125,000, the car simply stopped running. We junked it.
2. 2003 Accord - 2.4 litre w. 5 speed manual. The best car that I have ever owned. Absolutely reliable. Fun to drive. No rattles. Other than recommended maintenance, I had to replace a front axle seal. Currently has 128,000 miles and I believe that it will see 200,000 easily.
3. 2002 CR-V - purchased used with 99,000 miles. Previous owner maintained the car very well including 3000 OCI, 30000 mile tranny fluid changes, 30000 mile coolant changes, brake fluid changes, power steering fluid changes etc. I did the recommended 100,000 mile makeover and the car currently has 115,000 miles. Another winner - very reliable - solid - no problems at all. I think that I need a new front stabilizer bar end, but that's it. Once again, I think that this car will easily make 200,000 miles.
4. 2007 Accord - 3.0 V-6 with automatic. So far, so good but it's had some problems. I had to replace the brakes after 30000 miles (although my wife drives it very aggressively) and there are some rattles. I'm a bit concerned about the shifting of the automatic. 67,000 miles with bi-annual trans and radiator fluid changes. 5000 mile OCI (I ignore the oil life thingy because Honda V-6's are hard on oil). I will keep my fingers crossed.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.
95 Grand Marquis 161k - Nextgen 5w-30
02 CR-V 128k - Mobil 5000 5w-20
03 Accord 144k - Peak Synth 5W-20
07 Accord 76k - PP 5w-20

#2682712 - 07/13/12 11:17 AM Re: Honda quality in the 2000's [Re: Dave424]
Quest Offline

Registered: 12/19/04
Posts: 7297
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I know pretty much anyone have their luv/hate relationships RE: certain brand names and such, and would like to come along and put in their 2c's worth.

All I would like to say are as follows:

(a ) folks who are experiencing issues/problems with certain brand name products (e.g. automobiles) would cry/whime/complain the loudest on-line, and/or try to make themselves heard as widely as possible (to get people's attention). On the contrary: not all satisfied consumers would come along and praise about good products.

(b ) most of these yoootoob postings are subjective opinions (yes, "opinion is like an aay-whole; everybody has one and it stinks"), and Eric the car guy is not alone, IMHO.

(c ) IMHO no one brand (of automobiles) better than another in the arena of cost-cutting (competitiveness) while retaining quality: meaning that they all come along with certain quality-related issues. Some comes with more than others, that's for certain.

(d )automobiles have come a long way in terms of added weight(penality), stricter emissions control and added complexity in terms of controls (all the ABS, EBD, traction control, OBD-II computers, etc.) that one cannot simply come along and casually compare that to your grand-daddy's automobile of yore (carb'ed, no PCV (just a tube to vent crankcase pressure and pollutants, yeah! I knew that), no cat, no O2, no EVAP, no nothing. Those where the days where simplicity came along as part of the expectations, which no longer applies in this day and age).

(e ) all automobile manufacturers suffered from one form or another: some kind of quality issues that may come back to bite them where it hurts a few years down the road: some may be more serious than the others...but nevertheless: it's all directly/indrectly attributed to cost-cutting measures and quality controls from their parts supplier. In other words: there's no one car manufacturers rein superior in that regards than others anymore, citing that almost all car manufacturers sourced over 80% of the components from various outsider OEM suppliers, which also have their own quality concerns due to aggressive cost-cutting measures (very lean profit margin + relative lack of means rooms for improvements meaning quality will suffer).

I'm not sympathising or favouring any particular brands here (I have owned a few brands in the past/current, and they all have their own issues.

My 2c's worth.

"Internet discussion boards act as echo chambers for conspiracy dittoheads" A.Allen

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