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#2629126 - 05/17/12 12:13 PM Chrysler MS-6395
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Registered: 11/16/02
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Quote:
Question:
Mobil 1 5W-20 and Chrysler MS-6395
Why is your Mobil 1 5W-20 not Chrysler MS-6395 spec approved? Or if it is, why is the certification not on the bottle or website?
-- Josh Eads, Cabot, AR
Answer:
Chryslerís latest revision to the MS-6395 specification calls for a field trial spanning multiple seasons over two years. While we fully expect the exceptional performance of Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil to meet Chryslerís specification requirements, at this time we are in the process of evaluating our timeline to start this testing.
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#2629134 - 05/17/12 12:18 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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But buster I have read pretty much every major conventional oil blender state that their oil meet this spec.
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#2629141 - 05/17/12 12:24 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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Yeah I'm sure many do. I was more interested in the fact that it's a field trial over two years.
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#2629153 - 05/17/12 12:34 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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Registered: 05/10/12
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Loc: Minneapolis
If a manufacturer can revise a specification but keep the same number, how can we possibly know which bottles meet the specification?

They should use a new number for the specification.

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#2629200 - 05/17/12 01:18 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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Registered: 10/09/11
Posts: 3713
Loc: USA
Sounds like Chrysler wants a 2 year monopoly.IF nobody can certify for 2 years,that means Mopar oil will be the only approved choice.

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#2629202 - 05/17/12 01:20 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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LOL!!!
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#2629203 - 05/17/12 01:21 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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Kudos to Mobil though for not saying it meets it when it hasn't been tested.
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#2629215 - 05/17/12 01:35 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: SteveHarper]
NHHEMI Offline


Registered: 07/06/07
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Loc: NH
Originally Posted By: SteveHarper
If a manufacturer can revise a specification but keep the same number, how can we possibly know which bottles meet the specification?

They should use a new number for the specification.


Chrysler MS-6395 actually has a letter at the end designating what version it is. Last one I knew of was MS-6395-N.

The funny part is Chrysler doesn't always tell you what version you should be running in the owner's manual. Sometimes you get the full spec designation and other times they will just say use MS-6395.
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#2629225 - 05/17/12 01:41 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: NHHEMI]
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My TC says MS-6395. All oils I looked at had MS-6395 (Valvoline and QS), and no letters.
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#2629228 - 05/17/12 01:43 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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So then how can other blenders state their 5W-20, 5W-30, and 10W-30 meets the spec including MOPAR oil that is just re-badged PYB? Did Mobil and BP drop the ball on the certification because I found that SOPUS products and Valvoline state that their oils meet the cert but XOM and BP oils do not the question that you posted leads to more questions.
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#2629232 - 05/17/12 01:48 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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No idea.
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#2629233 - 05/17/12 01:50 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: SteveHarper]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 22423
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: SteveHarper
If a manufacturer can revise a specification but keep the same number, how can we possibly know which bottles meet the specification?

They should use a new number for the specification.


Exactly. This just sounds like Chrysler is trying to extort some $$ from XOM. LOL
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#2629729 - 05/18/12 04:51 AM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: Ursae_Majoris]
NHHEMI Offline


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Loc: NH
Originally Posted By: Ursae_Majoris
My TC says MS-6395. All oils I looked at had MS-6395 (Valvoline and QS), and no letters.


Do a search for MS6395M or N. I have even see Q come up in a search.
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#2629979 - 05/18/12 10:55 AM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: NHHEMI]
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I have seen MS-6395-S on quaker state's website.
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#2841301 - 12/19/12 08:21 PM Re: Chrysler MS-6395 [Re: buster]
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Registered: 12/25/06
Posts: 64
Loc: Raleigh NC
Since we seem to have a fair amount of Chrysler product owners on the site I want to bump this to note that Mobil Super now carries the Chrysler MS-6395 approval per the PDS dated 8/12.

http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lubes/PDS/GLXXENINDMOMobil_Super.aspx
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