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#2608717 - 04/24/12 07:18 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: racin4ds]
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Registered: 08/24/11
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OIL Q state defy 5w30
MILES IN USE 0
MILES
SAMPLE TAKEN 4\23\12
ALUMINUM 0
CHROMIUM 0
IRON 0
COPPER 0
LEAD 0
TIN 0
MOLYBDENUM 83
NICKEL 0
MANGANESE 0
SILVER 0
TITANIUM 0
POTASSIUM 0
BORON 169
SILICON 4
SODIUM 2
CALCIUM 1688
MAGNESIUM 7
PHOSPHORUS 735
ZINC 839
BARIUM 0
INSOLUBLES 0
WATER 0
FLASHPOINT ºF 420
SUS VIS 210ºF 65.1
cSt @ 212ºF 11.63
FUEL DILUTION%
TBN 7.8
OXIDATION
NITRATION
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#2608787 - 04/24/12 08:13 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: racin4ds]
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Registered: 05/04/09
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I dont see the high zinc that they are claiming. So mch for runing this in my flat tappet engine.
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#2608825 - 04/24/12 08:56 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: porkchop01]
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Registered: 08/24/11
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Ya kind of a disappointment. Blackstone said viscosity was a bit thicker than 5w30.
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#2608873 - 04/24/12 09:49 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: Highline9]
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Registered: 11/07/10
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Could BlackStone's numbers of ZDDP be off on this analysis , I remember an earlier QSHM VOA being way off from them. I believe Johnny retested with Dyson and the number came back way different.
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#2608890 - 04/24/12 10:02 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: Thax]
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Registered: 08/24/11
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Maybe someone will use a different lab and we can compare.
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#2608895 - 04/24/12 10:06 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: Highline9]
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Registered: 07/24/10
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Aren't Blackstone's numbers always low for Zinc/Phos?
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#2608948 - 04/24/12 11:28 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: racin4ds]
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Registered: 08/25/11
Posts: 415
Loc: Michigan
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TBN is pretty low too....
I really am kind of dissapointed, If anyone from SOPUS is reading this and sees that blackstones results are off then they need to provide a correct VOA. Otherwise I don't see this oil then anything more then marketing hype.
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#2608964 - 04/25/12 12:00 AM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: racin4ds]
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Registered: 06/14/10
Posts: 642
Loc: USA
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you should make a new thread and start a discussion there.
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#2609185 - 04/25/12 08:59 AM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: MrRPM]
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Registered: 08/28/11
Posts: 160
Loc: Michigan
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TBN is pretty low too....
I really am kind of dissapointed, If anyone from SOPUS is reading this and sees that blackstones results are off then they need to provide a correct VOA. Otherwise I don't see this oil then anything more then marketing hype. I agree, looks like Quaker State DEFY is an average (at best) SM oil. 
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#2609406 - 04/25/12 01:07 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: racin4ds]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Thanks for the VOA. Well, as others have pointed out, Blackstone has reported some weird zinc levels in the past. As for the TBN, there's really nothing wrong with that, particularly for my application (a carbed truck with no extended OCIs).
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#2609974 - 04/25/12 10:45 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: racin4ds]
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Registered: 06/30/11
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What a downer! I hope this is wrong...but I'm not totally surprised either. It looks like QSGB with about an ounce of Rotella in it. 
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#2610102 - 04/26/12 05:28 AM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: KCJeep]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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No, just QSED with a different label. 
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#2610139 - 04/26/12 07:04 AM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: Garak]
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Registered: 11/29/11
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Loc: Dunbar, WV USA
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Good thing I only got it FAR.
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#2610278 - 04/26/12 10:29 AM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: Provi]
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Registered: 12/05/09
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Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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One place has it on special up here, but, unfortunately, I won't need any for a bit. I've got some Comp Cams ZDDP supplement from when the engine was rebuilt and for when I use PCMO, and I've got a boatload of Mobil Delvac 1300.
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#2610358 - 04/26/12 12:13 PM
Re: Any VOA/UOA's on QS DEFY yet??
[Re: racin4ds]
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Registered: 10/14/11
Posts: 172
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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Wow, disappointing indeed. Does 'low volatility' zinc have anything to with the low numbers reported meaning it may hold it's own retention better over regular zinc and not needing as much ppm? If there is such a thing that is...
Edited by Flying_A (04/26/12 12:13 PM)
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