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#2607682 - 04/23/12 06:01 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: Nick R]
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Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
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Pretty heavily depleted TBN for such a short run and it is now a 20-weight. However, it appeared to have held up reasonably well otherwise. Was this change based on the OLM?
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#2607690 - 04/23/12 06:08 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: Nick R]
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Registered: 08/15/06
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Fuel dilute is more like 2-3%. Thats why its a 20. Still, not horribly bad. What was the OLM at?
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#2607706 - 04/23/12 06:23 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: OVERKILL]
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Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 9575
Loc: Saratoga, NY
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Fuel dilute is more like 2-3%. Thats why its a 20. Still, not horribly bad. What was the OLM at? Pretty heavily depleted TBN for such a short run and it is now a 20-weight. However, it appeared to have held up reasonably well otherwise. Was this change based on the OLM? 7% when I changed it. Also iirc PP is a bit on the thin side for a 30wt anyway, so when you combine a small amount of fuel and shearing from the engine, going slightly below 30wt spec doesn't seem that unusual. I'm looking forward to getting a UOA done on my cruze here in another 6,500 miles or so.
Edited by Nick R (04/23/12 06:26 PM)
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#2607708 - 04/23/12 06:28 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: Nick R]
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Registered: 04/28/08
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
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So this obviously has the recalibrated OLM then eh?  This app must be hard on oil. I'm interested in seeing your Cruze UOA as well! I have one for my M5 coming up too if I can remember to send it away.
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#2607714 - 04/23/12 06:42 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: Nick R]
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Registered: 06/02/09
Posts: 1278
Loc: Lexington, KY
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We're looking at trading in our 2010 4 cyl Equinox for a 2012. Got a mailing the other day from our local dealer that they are willing to give us $21,156 for our 2010! Actually stopped in the other day to see if it was legit and they said it was, but they didn't have a 2012 in stock with the trim we were looking for. Should have one this week.
But.... one thing I'm wondering: what type of gas mileage are you getting with the 3.0?
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#2607716 - 04/23/12 06:43 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: Nick R]
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Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 5001
Loc: Maricopa, AZ
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Yeah it looks like the OLM is bonkers. I will hold off the comments on the fuel but flashpoint is a little low but wear is where a suspect is would be with a new engine. The more and more data I see from GM'S new engines I see way GM is pushing dexos hard, but let's hope DI and the problems with it are ironed out soon. Good report.
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#2607719 - 04/23/12 06:46 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: Nick R]
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Registered: 09/25/09
Posts: 6292
Loc: OH
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DI engines chew up oil? Really? Seriously, this thing trashed that PP, and PP usually gives really good UOAs. PP is even a Dexos 1 oil. What was the OLM at when you drained this oil? I'm curious, since you used a good oil and it still was pretty well done in <5K. The daily short trips probably didn't help. If fuel dilution is the problem, an ester basestock oil might (I'm saying might) be the solution. How about trying G-Oil in this engine? The price is certainly right. Did you put PP in for another run? Do you plan on doing a UOA of the current fill? It will be interesting to see what the current crop of GDI engines looks like after 100K or so.
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#2607745 - 04/23/12 07:10 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: Colt45ws]
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Registered: 12/08/10
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Loc: NY USA
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Fuel dilute is more like 2-3%. Thats why its a 20. Still, not horribly bad. What was the OLM at? It says fuel Dilute at 0.5% universal averages are 2%. I was going to comment on how low it was.
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#2607749 - 04/23/12 07:14 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: johnachak]
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Registered: 04/28/08
Posts: 21717
Loc: Ontario, Canada
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Fuel dilute is more like 2-3%. Thats why its a 20. Still, not horribly bad. What was the OLM at? It says fuel Dilute at 0.5% universal averages are 2%. I was going to comment on how low it was. He is disagreeing with Blackstone's figure based on how much viscosity the oil lost.
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#2607751 - 04/23/12 07:16 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: dave1251]
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Registered: 12/08/10
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Loc: NY USA
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Yeah it looks like the OLM is bonkers. I will hold off the comments on the fuel but flashpoint is a little low but wear is where a suspect is would be with a new engine. The more and more data I see from GM'S new engines I see way GM is pushing dexos hard, but let's hope DI and the problems with it are ironed out soon. Good report. I think the OLM is on the money. Our Caddy is over 6 months on ~2,000 miles, the OLM is at 45%. Apparently it is taking the short trips into account. I am impressed. Our engine has 3 chains, I believe the 3.0 does also. That could add to the shearing. Remember, we just came off the winter oil change.
Edited by johnachak (04/23/12 07:20 PM) Edit Reason: typo
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#2607755 - 04/23/12 07:18 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: OVERKILL]
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Registered: 12/08/10
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Loc: NY USA
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Fuel dilute is more like 2-3%. Thats why its a 20. Still, not horribly bad. What was the OLM at? It says fuel Dilute at 0.5% universal averages are 2%. I was going to comment on how low it was. He is disagreeing with Blackstone's figure based on how much viscosity the oil lost. Yeah, I got that. I think the shearing, short trips and winter gas and idling probably had a lot to do with it. We are talking about Upstate NY in the winter.
Edited by johnachak (04/23/12 07:21 PM)
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#2607761 - 04/23/12 07:23 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: OVERKILL]
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Registered: 12/08/10
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Loc: NY USA
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Fuel dilute is more like 2-3%. Thats why its a 20. Still, not horribly bad. What was the OLM at? It says fuel Dilute at 0.5% universal averages are 2%. I was going to comment on how low it was. He is disagreeing with Blackstone's figure based on how much viscosity the oil lost. On what grounds?
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#2607780 - 04/23/12 07:45 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: johnachak]
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Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 20094
Loc: Illinoistan
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Fuel dilute is more like 2-3%. Thats why its a 20. Still, not horribly bad. What was the OLM at? It says fuel Dilute at 0.5% universal averages are 2%. I was going to comment on how low it was. He is disagreeing with Blackstone's figure based on how much viscosity the oil lost. On what grounds? Viscosity drop and low flash point.
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#2607783 - 04/23/12 07:45 PM
Re: 2011 Equinox 3.0L DI V6 (PP 5W-30, 4,820) 9,760m
[Re: dave1251]
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Registered: 10/30/02
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Yeah it looks like the OLM is bonkers. Huh? IMO, the OLM is right on!
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