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#2605961 - 04/21/12 07:05 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
tom slick Offline


Registered: 05/26/03
Posts: 8611
Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
Originally Posted By: FirstNissan
I just saw a video on youtube and checked some forums, not sure about it so figured I'd post here and see.
The video is a 1 man brake bleed using a tube connected to the bleeder that is submerged in brake fluid. The guy pumps the brakes about 10X, and then closes the bleeder. Idea is that no air will be sucked back in, just brake fluid. Will this method work?


It is that simple and it does work exactly as described. That's the same method I use.

Here's a write-up I did a couple years ago:

Cheapo brake bleeder.
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#2606105 - 04/21/12 09:29 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: tom slick]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 11756
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Your writeup should almost be a sticky. I have no problems with the various nifty tools out there to help the bleed process, but yours works well in accordance with most FSMs I've read. I think some tool manufacturers have used a few scare tactics with the prevalence of ABS to sell tools that people really don't need, as much as they might be very nice to have.
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#2606579 - 04/22/12 01:57 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
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Registered: 06/04/02
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Loc: The Motor City
I've been using a rather simple one-man brake bleeding system for years with no problems. I crack open the bleeder screw just a bit (about a quarter turn), attach a hose and pump away. Pressure from pumping the brake pedal forces a good amount of fluid out, and restriction from the cracked open bleeder screw prevents too much fluid from being slurped back in. The fluid gets refreshed and there is no air introduced by this method.

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#2606737 - 04/22/12 05:45 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: Kestas]
Loobed Offline


Registered: 07/20/07
Posts: 3742
Loc: Northern California, USA
Originally Posted By: Kestas
I've been using a rather simple one-man brake bleeding system for years with no problems. I crack open the bleeder screw just a bit (about a quarter turn), attach a hose and pump away. Pressure from pumping the brake pedal forces a good amount of fluid out, and restriction from the cracked open bleeder screw prevents too much fluid from being slurped back in. The fluid gets refreshed and there is no air introduced by this method.


I have tried many "simple" one man brake bleeding apparatuses on my truck. I always get air in the system. There are only 2 things that work efficiently for me. The 2 man pump-and-hold method, and my pressure bleeder. I have a Mityvac hand pump, but it is slow and I suck more air than fluid.
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#2606755 - 04/22/12 06:15 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
JustinC25 Offline


Registered: 08/19/04
Posts: 806
Loc: NH
I do the one man flush method all the time.
I use a turkey baster to suck as much fluid out of the master as I can with out letting it run dry. Then I top off the master with fresh fluid.
Next, I use a prybar wedged between the brake pedal and the seat all the way forward for the first 2 pumps, and open then close the bleeder til the clear tubing is full of fluid, and submurssed in fluid in a water bottle, so it can't suck in air. Then I top off the master, open the bleeder and pump the pedal 5-10x, and check the master again. I repeat this process til the fluid in the tube is clear, and clean.
Then I move on to the next bleeder, til i'm done.
I've done this process several times with great success.
Just make sure that the key is off when you do this so the fluid will just get pushed through the abs actuator, as if the car doesn't have abs.
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#2606881 - 04/22/12 08:18 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
sw99 Offline


Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 1446
Loc: Colorado
Check out the phoenix systems brake bleeder. From everything I have read, this is the best way to do it since the air bubbles want to go up instead of trying to force them down. This introduced fluid from the calipers and the air bubbles escape from the master cylinder.
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#2607619 - 04/23/12 05:10 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Once again, there is no need to submerge a line in fluid with any PROPER bleeding technique.

NONE.

Yes, I have heard this all my life and have done it in the past.

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#2607898 - 04/23/12 09:50 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: mechtech2]
tom slick Offline


Registered: 05/26/03
Posts: 8611
Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Once again, there is no need to submerge a line in fluid with any PROPER bleeding technique.

NONE.

Yes, I have heard this all my life and have done it in the past.


You're correct but it adds a bit of insurance for the guys who aren't a pro doing this every day.
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#2608006 - 04/24/12 12:26 AM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: tom slick]
sunfire Offline


Registered: 04/08/08
Posts: 1574
Loc: Ca, US
Originally Posted By: tom slick
Originally Posted By: mechtech2
Once again, there is no need to submerge a line in fluid with any PROPER bleeding technique.

NONE.

Yes, I have heard this all my life and have done it in the past.


You're correct but it adds a bit of insurance for the guys who aren't a pro doing this every day.


It's for people like me... I need all the assurance/insurance I can get.


Edited by sunfire (04/24/12 12:29 AM)
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#2608594 - 04/24/12 05:04 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
With a two man pedal pumping type brake bleed, it really helps if the brake guy knows up from down [when bleeder boy requests either].

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#2608733 - 04/24/12 07:32 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
tom slick Offline


Registered: 05/26/03
Posts: 8611
Loc: Central Coast, Calif.
Two man? Brake bleeding is a one man job. The other guy can change spark plugs, get another cold beer for you...
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#2609383 - 04/25/12 12:44 PM Re: 1 Man Brake Bleed [Re: FirstNissan]
mechtech2 Offline


Registered: 09/05/06
Posts: 19479
Loc: Chicago Area
Or in England, warm beer...

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