Recent Topics
Boston, MA. What to do in short visit?
by 97tbird
08/21/14 11:40 AM
Ht/Hs value of valvoline vr1 10w30 conventional
by joegreen
08/21/14 09:56 AM
Oil additives
by minis
08/21/14 09:46 AM
Toro Suzuki 4cycle Recycler
by Ope_Freak
08/21/14 08:36 AM
Steel vs. Alloy for Winter Use?
by kkreit01
08/21/14 08:34 AM
amsoil ATM 10w30 virgin sample result
by pb
08/21/14 07:51 AM
BITOG Site Problems Help
by Smoky14
08/21/14 07:19 AM
ripped strut boots, 08 matrix.
by JustinH
08/21/14 07:04 AM
Discount Tire Direct Labor Day Sale
by sopususer
08/21/14 05:08 AM
Fixed another annoying Chevy noise
by Realtech214
08/21/14 03:51 AM
DI intake valves CAN be cleaned with PEA?
by Alext
08/21/14 01:27 AM
Longer Oil Filter,Yes I Need One
by rrounds
08/21/14 12:44 AM
Newest Members
plumcrazy, davidperrysmith, FilterMinder1, hammms, 73bug
51030 Registered Users
Who's Online
98 registered (05LGTLtd, 4wheeldog, 3800Series, 123Saab, ag_ghost, 97tbird, 9 invisible), 1999 Guests and 214 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
51030 Members
64 Forums
218095 Topics
3437834 Posts

Max Online: 2862 @ 07/07/14 03:10 PM
Donate to BITOG

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#2579439 - 03/25/12 06:56 PM Looking to buy a pressure washer
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10449
Loc: Amherst, OH
My mom decided that she wants to buy a pressure washer since our landllors is the laziest person in the world, and is too broke to do anything. She wants to buy it from sears because of their protection plan, and so she can put it on her sears card. Anyway, these are the ones I'm considering, and I'd like your opinion. We want something halfway decent, and I want something with an OHV engine, whether Honda or Briggs.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175253000P?prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175291000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175287000P?prdNo=9&blockNo=9&blockType=G9
_________________________
13 Ford Focus SE 2.0L/33,000miles/Pennz Plat PurePlus 0W-20/FRAM Ultra
13 Chevy Traverse 3.6L/14,000mi/QSUD 5W-30/FRAM Ultra
11 Chevy Cruze 1.4T/32k

Top
#2579455 - 03/25/12 07:06 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 7152
Loc: Birmingham, AL
I wouldn't hold out high hopes for the pumps on any of those. I can't tell for sure, but they look like they were made by FNA Group/FAIP. If you can find something in the budget with a CAT, Comet, or General pump that would be ideal. With the protection plan though, you should be covered if you get a bad one.

Either of those engines should be great.
_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT
3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD
154K miles

Top
#2579548 - 03/25/12 08:42 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
JHZR2 Offline



Registered: 12/14/02
Posts: 33461
Loc: New Jersey
why does she want to spruce up somebody else's property? And go into debt over it? Be careful.

Id go to HD and buy one with a CAT pump, myself...

Top
#2579586 - 03/25/12 09:18 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13286
Loc: Upstate NY
The protection plan from Sears is a rip. Big profit for the employee who sells it to you. Most of the pressure washers have cheap pumps and will not last as long as a quality pump. The last one on your list is Calif only because of emissions. The ones you suggest are all made by MTD which makes consumer grade stuff. They are not the worst but far from the best. However you would need to spend what you are suggesting for a good pump alone, much less an entire washer.

The better ones are horizontal engine, and even better are belt driven.

What are you looking to do? Second floor?

I am up to 4 pressure washers. One is a cheap Cambell Hausfeld electric that I bought used for $25 and its great for many things. The big one is a hot water one.

I am actually going to sell one or two used. You are not very far, I live in New Lebanon. One used one I bought to fix. The guy let it freeze. So I have a brand new high quality pump, not the cheap replacement. Have not even put the pump on yet.
_________________________
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0 - PP & M1
1999 Dodge Ram 2500 w/Cummins - Rotella T6 & M1
Amsoil ATF in both vehicles & Magnefine filter.

Top
#2579677 - 03/25/12 10:50 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Donald]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10449
Loc: Amherst, OH
Because she will eventually own a house, once my dad gets out of the navy, and it will be nice to already have the stuff. Also, because it might be his property, but we've lived here for 4 years, and will be for at least the next 2, probably 3 or 4 more.


Also they pay off their credit cards every month, 2 months at the most, so it's not a big deal on that front.

Originally Posted By: Donald
The protection plan from Sears is a rip. Big profit for the employee who sells it to you. Most of the pressure washers have cheap pumps and will not last as long as a quality pump. The last one on your list is Calif only because of emissions. The ones you suggest are all made by MTD which makes consumer grade stuff. They are not the worst but far from the best. However you would need to spend what you are suggesting for a good pump alone, much less an entire washer.

The better ones are horizontal engine, and even better are belt driven.

What are you looking to do? Second floor?

I am up to 4 pressure washers. One is a cheap Cambell Hausfeld electric that I bought used for $25 and its great for many things. The big one is a hot water one.

I am actually going to sell one or two used. You are not very far, I live in New Lebanon. One used one I bought to fix. The guy let it freeze. So I have a brand new high quality pump, not the cheap replacement. Have not even put the pump on yet.


Yes second floor. I doubt I could convince her to buy a used one from someone. I would myself, but not her. There is a horizontal one at sears with a briggs horizontal shaft OHV engine.
_________________________
13 Ford Focus SE 2.0L/33,000miles/Pennz Plat PurePlus 0W-20/FRAM Ultra
13 Chevy Traverse 3.6L/14,000mi/QSUD 5W-30/FRAM Ultra
11 Chevy Cruze 1.4T/32k

Top
#2579680 - 03/25/12 10:53 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10449
Loc: Amherst, OH
_________________________
13 Ford Focus SE 2.0L/33,000miles/Pennz Plat PurePlus 0W-20/FRAM Ultra
13 Chevy Traverse 3.6L/14,000mi/QSUD 5W-30/FRAM Ultra
11 Chevy Cruze 1.4T/32k

Top
#2579762 - 03/26/12 01:42 AM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
yeehaw1960 Offline


Registered: 05/02/07
Posts: 523
Loc: Nebraska
Yeah...steer clear of the protection plan. Even when someone competent works on it, he/she will be four states away and it can take weeks. People bring mowers to me that Sears "technicians" have worked on. We have a good laugh when I put the springs or linkage or belt on the correct way. Seriously, you will find a few very good, very competent techs at a Sears or Sears authorized repair shop, but it's a gamble. I think they hire a lot of cheap summer help.

Sears salesmen hate me. I'll go in to get a blade or something and talk two or three people into visiting the local Ace Hardware to buy a middle of the road Toro for a hundred dollars more. Sometimes while the salesman is "selling" them.

Yeah...I'm a d$%k.


Edited by yeehaw1960 (03/26/12 01:43 AM)

Top
#2579821 - 03/26/12 06:26 AM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
Donald Offline


Registered: 03/21/04
Posts: 13286
Loc: Upstate NY
Sears are probably as good as the other MTD made ones at HD or Lowes. If you are careful with not letting it freeze and not letting it run for more than a few minutes with the trigger not pulled you should be OK.

I think the engine and pump are cheaply made, just that its harder to kill the engine than the pump.
_________________________
2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.0 - PP & M1
1999 Dodge Ram 2500 w/Cummins - Rotella T6 & M1
Amsoil ATF in both vehicles & Magnefine filter.

Top
#2579945 - 03/26/12 09:20 AM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
lexus114 Offline


Registered: 05/12/08
Posts: 6007
Loc: Easton, PA
If you buy anything with a Faip pump, you better run Synthetic oil in it if you want it to last any length of time.
_________________________
2012 Mercedes-Benz C300 4matic
2015 Lexus RX350 AWD

Top
#2580071 - 03/26/12 11:16 AM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10449
Loc: Amherst, OH
I went to look today the pumps on all of them are made by annovi. should i be concerned ? Im debating between the two 3000psi units. One horizontal shaft with the 900 series briggs and the other with a 875 series vertical shaft unit. Price is similar. The 900 is a Chinesebuilt briggs and
the 875 is a US-made engine


Edited by Nick R (03/26/12 11:17 AM)
_________________________
13 Ford Focus SE 2.0L/33,000miles/Pennz Plat PurePlus 0W-20/FRAM Ultra
13 Chevy Traverse 3.6L/14,000mi/QSUD 5W-30/FRAM Ultra
11 Chevy Cruze 1.4T/32k

Top
#2580136 - 03/26/12 12:11 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 7152
Loc: Birmingham, AL
Annovi pumps are not the worst, but they aren't the greatest either. They are on the lower end of pumps, but for light residential use are okay.

I have a "Powerstroke" pressure washer with a Honda GC160 horizontal engine and an Annovi pump. I got it in 2010 as a "reconditioned" model. So far no issues, but it sees pretty light use.
_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT
3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD
154K miles

Top
#2580144 - 03/26/12 12:17 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
Nick R Offline


Registered: 07/14/09
Posts: 10449
Loc: Amherst, OH
Seriously I'm looking at these two.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175298000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175253000P?prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7


They are the exact same price, exact same pressure and flow. The only difference is that one is a horizontal shaft, 9.0Lb/ft chinese made Briggs, the other is a vertical shaft, 8.75lb/ft briggs with a big "Made in USA" sticker on it.

Which one would you pick?

Also in anticipation of getting either one, I picked up a bottle of Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil for the pump.


Edited by Nick R (03/26/12 12:24 PM)
_________________________
13 Ford Focus SE 2.0L/33,000miles/Pennz Plat PurePlus 0W-20/FRAM Ultra
13 Chevy Traverse 3.6L/14,000mi/QSUD 5W-30/FRAM Ultra
11 Chevy Cruze 1.4T/32k

Top
#2580297 - 03/26/12 02:37 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
itguy08 Offline


Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 1470
Loc: Central PA
I've got last year's version of this one:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175253000P?prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7

IIRC it's 2700PSI with the Briggs OHV engine that's made in the USA. It is the same unit Briggs sells under their brand.

Only issue is that the selector wand won't stay on one of the settings (IIRC the lower pressure) which I'll get replaced under the 2 year warranty.

I've got no issues with the pump - it's powerwashed our house, gutters, and the driveway and sidewalk. I use pump saver after every use and it seems to be working fine.
_________________________
Mine:
2010 Taurus SHO, 77k, dealer oil and filter
2011 F150 SuperCrew, 49k, Penzoil Platinum, Motorcraft filter

Hers:
2003 Escape, 145k, QS Defy

Top
#2580303 - 03/26/12 02:39 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
itguy08 Offline


Registered: 09/15/11
Posts: 1470
Loc: Central PA
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Also in anticipation of getting either one, I picked up a bottle of Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil for the pump.


From what I've read you don't use gear oil in the pump. You use a special lubricant that resists foaming and is made for the harsh environment. It's not a gearcase.
_________________________
Mine:
2010 Taurus SHO, 77k, dealer oil and filter
2011 F150 SuperCrew, 49k, Penzoil Platinum, Motorcraft filter

Hers:
2003 Escape, 145k, QS Defy

Top
#2580314 - 03/26/12 02:46 PM Re: Looking to buy a pressure washer [Re: Nick R]
01rangerxl Offline


Registered: 04/08/06
Posts: 7152
Loc: Birmingham, AL
Originally Posted By: Nick R
Seriously I'm looking at these two.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175298000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07175253000P?prdNo=7&blockNo=7&blockType=G7


They are the exact same price, exact same pressure and flow. The only difference is that one is a horizontal shaft, 9.0Lb/ft chinese made Briggs, the other is a vertical shaft, 8.75lb/ft briggs with a big "Made in USA" sticker on it.

Which one would you pick?

Also in anticipation of getting either one, I picked up a bottle of Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil for the pump.


Of those two, I would go with the top one. It will be very easy to change out the pump if it ever has a problem. You would have plenty of room to throw a CAT pump or something else on if you wanted to. That's a pretty good sized engine for a pressure washer too and could probably power a higher capacity pump just fine. The downside is that with the wheels oriented to the front of the frame, it will be a little awkward to roll around. Ones that tilt back and roll are a little easier to maneuver around.

I would get a can of Pump Saver for the pump. It's sold under a variety of brands, often Briggs & Stratton brand, and you can probably find it at any place that sells pressure washers.
_________________________
2002 Ford Ranger XLT
3.0 V6 / 5-Speed Automatic / 2WD
154K miles

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >