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#2552611 - 02/29/12 05:03 PM
r12freon questions
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formerly chevyboy14
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Loc: missouri usa
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My 92 chevy truck has r12 and boy o boy does she get ice cold. My problem is the ac clutch cycles every 20 seconds or so. I assume it needs freon. Now I really dont want to convert it:( 134 sucks. Isn't there a can of freon made that can be bought by a regular Joe and is compatible with r12?
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#2552619 - 02/29/12 05:08 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 06/27/08
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I think ebay would be a good choice for cans of r12, they can be pricey though.
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#2552620 - 02/29/12 05:11 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 01/31/09
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Loc: Tampa, Fl
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Craigslist normally has a few. The price has really come down now that most cars on the road take R134a.
-Rouphis
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#2552622 - 02/29/12 05:12 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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formerly chevyboy14
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Thought you couldnt buy it without a license?
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#2552624 - 02/29/12 05:14 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 07/14/09
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everytime I buy r-12 from ebay the seller wants to see a copy of my license first.
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#2552627 - 02/29/12 05:14 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 12/31/10
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Loc: Washington State (East)
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I got cans R-12 off of Craigslist. Keep checking. They come up here in Spokane all the time. My 93 is ice cold too.
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#2552634 - 02/29/12 05:19 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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I fofou
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#2552643 - 02/29/12 05:24 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 10/09/11
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R12 hasnt been manufactured for over 10 years now.You need a licence to buy it.They dont want you purging it into the atmosphere,you need the reclaiming equipment and licence to deal with it properly.
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#2552646 - 02/29/12 05:26 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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You need to go by the pressures, not if it cycles every 20 seconds. What temperature are you running when testing it?
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#2552653 - 02/29/12 05:30 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 06/15/03
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Leave it alone! Overpressure can make the clutch cycle just like under pressure. You say it's cold. Don't touch it!
A gauge set might be useful, but every time you connect one you vent a smidgen of that precious R12.
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#2552664 - 02/29/12 05:45 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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If it is ice cold, leave it alone. You do not need a recharge IMO. The clutch is designed to cycle. You are lucky your '92 Chev is still tight. These systems were designed for R12 and to convert it when it is still working is a waste on money. FWIW--Oldtommy
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#2552665 - 02/29/12 05:47 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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Registered: 02/14/10
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Don't mess with it. If it's cold leave well enough alone. As was said, when you connect to the system you lose some refrigerant. Not a lot, but since auto A/Cs contains little to begin with it makes a difference.
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#2552684 - 02/29/12 06:05 PM
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[Re: Dakota1820]
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Wait until it is a hot humid day and run it for a while. If it is cold, and the suction line is real cold then it is full charged, and you do not want to mess with it. On cold days like not the clutch should not say in. The clutch should stay in on hot days.
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#2552685 - 02/29/12 06:06 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: meangreen01]
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Registered: 01/11/08
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Loc: Roswell GA
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Last I heard, you don't need a license to buy it anymore.
Even if you do, the online test takes like 5-10 minutes and you instantly are "licensed". Did it myself some years ago.
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#2552686 - 02/29/12 06:07 PM
Re: r12freon questions
[Re: Dakota1820]
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formerly chevyboy14
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Its about 60 degrees outside and it cycles about every 10 seconds. It seemed like longer. Its very cold colder than my Saturn and I know it works correctly
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